Dragons or Dinosaurs

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I have read that Leviathan is probably a crocodile while Behemoth is simply a hippopotamus.
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I think to start believing the Earth is only a few thousands of years old it'd take more proof than simply some art work has been done at some point in every culture that is somewhat similar to giant reptiles. Not only that, but it's entirely possible these stories/depictions were inspired by discovered fossils. Think about an ancient man's mind. At some point his society probably stumbled upon a large skeleton of a dinosaur or they adopted the story from another society. It seems that adoption or discovery of these would be enough to spark a legend of dragons and monsters.
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Dinosaurs exist there are references in the Bible
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Well there's the komodo dragon, maybe it just evolved to stop flying....
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Murray wrote:Well there's the komodo dragon, maybe it just evolved to stop flying....
and crocodiles, aligators etc.......
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and sharks :ewink:
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What if Leviathan is STILL around?

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I would like to post a couple of my thoughts on the matter. I have to believe God as a Christian. His word is his word and as Christians we must believe it as it is written. With that said, let run something by you all. In Genesis it talks of Gods creation in 6 days... 7th he rested. However later he says he wLked in the garden with Adam... How long did he walk there before Adam sinned? Adam & Eve were timeless, they knew no death until the fall.
Second men aged to 900 plus.. Scientifically reptiles keep growing until death so therefore it is possible that some of our reptiles today were in fact dinosaurs of those days. If you believe in Gods word then when we look at the flood you have to note a few things... The main thing is God destroyed the earth by flood waters. Second you will notice after the flood God gives permission Noah that he and all creatures are allowed to eat meat now... So if you take it as I have, it creates a possibility that all creatures up to the point of the flood were vegetarian... What does this mean you might ask? Well I believe that it is possible that dinosaurs walked beside man before the flood, somewhat harmoniously. And afterwards when given permission to eat meat is when things got a little rocky between man and dinosaurs hence possible eventual killing off over time. But I believe the flood took care of most all except for the 2 of a kind God sent to Noah.

Just some thoughts while studying creation and such.
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Braylan, first of all, welcome to the site. :wave:
I would like to post a couple of my thoughts on the matter. I have to believe God as a Christian. His word is his word and as Christians we must believe it as it is written.
I don't think any Christian would have a disagreement with that. The disagreements come, with the way each of us interprets what is written.
In Genesis it talks of Gods creation in 6 days... 7th he rested. However later he says he wLked in the garden with Adam... How long did he walk there before Adam sinned?
Braylan, first, the Hebrew word for "day", is "yom". It has more than one 'literal' meaning. see link:http://www.godandscience.org/youngearth/genesis.html
The text doesn't say how long God walked with Adam.
Adam & Eve were timeless, they knew no death until the fall.
I wouldn't say they were timeless, in the same sense that God exists outside of time. Adam was created in this creation, in which, time exists.
Second you will notice after the flood God gives permission Noah that he and all creatures are allowed to eat meat now...
Genesis 9:1-4: 1 And God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth. 2 The fear of you and the terror of you will be on every beast of the earth and on every bird of the [a]sky; with everything that creeps on the ground, and all the fish of the sea, into your hand they are given. 3 Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I give all to you, as I gave the green plant. 4 Only you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood.

This was only given to Noah. There is no mention in the text, that animals weren't allowed to eat meat before.

So if you take it as I have, it creates a possibility that all creatures up to the point of the flood were vegetarian...
Reread the text, and you'll see that it makes no mention of animals being vegetarian before Adam's sin. If one sees the possibility of animals being vegetarian, pre-fall, then the possibility has to come from somewhere other than the biblical text.
What does this mean you might ask? Well I believe that it is possible that dinosaurs walked beside man before the flood, somewhat harmoniously.
You certainly can believe that if you wish. But, just keep in mind that you'd be reading something into the text, that isn't there.
I used to believe in a young earth, global flood, etc. It wasn't until I actually did some research on my own, that my views changed. You are certainly free to believe in a Young Earth, if you wish. I just hope you would research for yourself, before you come to any decision. But, I guess that's why you're here. This is a great site. :)
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