Okay, to start I do not classify myself as a baptist. I clarify myself as a believer of Jesus Christ. Now that i'm done with that lol. What are your guys's denominations? I'm baptist.
Okay now to my question a lot has happened to the Catholic church. But the major one I have seen is their salvation plans have completely took a turn for the worse. From what people say at the Church I go to. Why is it they switched their salvation plans from Being saved by Grace and not by works to completely the opposite? I know they have a different Bible than protestant churches, but it still has the correct way to get saved in it. So can somebody clarify this for me please?
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Re: What are your denominations? and a question I have...
Could you not have started with a simpler question my friend? But let me answer your question with a request. Please show me from official Catholic positions that the Catholic Church has switched salvation plans.Dallas wrote:Okay, to start I do not classify myself as a baptist. I clarify myself as a believer of Jesus Christ. Now that i'm done with that lol. What are your guys's denominations? I'm baptist.
Okay now to my question a lot has happened to the Catholic church. But the major one I have seen is their salvation plans have completely took a turn for the worse. From what people say at the Church I go to. Why is it they switched their salvation plans from Being saved by Grace and not by works to completely the opposite? I know they have a different Bible than protestant churches, but it still has the correct way to get saved in it. So can somebody clarify this for me please?
Sincerely,
Dallas.
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I am Christian. Attend a baptist congregation.
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Byblos, I promise you that Dallas is not a pseudonym that I'm posting under. You can check his ip address if you don't believe me. 
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
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St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
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Hi Dallas.
I was born a Catholic (to put it that way). Having been an independent free-thinker my entire life, I had never really thought deeply about the Church's policies until I grew up. Besides, Roman Catholicism is by far the most widespread Christian denomination in my country, so I haven't often witnessed an alternative. I've always seen my relationship with God as something private.
So I started asking questions like, "If God knows my heart and my thoughts, why do I need a confession to have my sins forgotten?", or "Why intercessory prayers to saints? Isn't it wiser to pray to the One in charge of everything?" I sometimes feel that modern-day Catholicism complicates faith. Plus, being an anti-evolutionist, I'm honestly disappointed with the RCC's position towards the issue - I mean, it's not that they weren't once mistaken about the shape of the Earth because they adhered to the common beliefs of the time. These things distanced me from Catholicism, so I could de facto consider myself a non-denominational Christian at the moment, though I'm formally still a Catholic, for cultural reasons.
P.S. Byblos, feel free to bash me because of what I wrote here.
I was born a Catholic (to put it that way). Having been an independent free-thinker my entire life, I had never really thought deeply about the Church's policies until I grew up. Besides, Roman Catholicism is by far the most widespread Christian denomination in my country, so I haven't often witnessed an alternative. I've always seen my relationship with God as something private.
So I started asking questions like, "If God knows my heart and my thoughts, why do I need a confession to have my sins forgotten?", or "Why intercessory prayers to saints? Isn't it wiser to pray to the One in charge of everything?" I sometimes feel that modern-day Catholicism complicates faith. Plus, being an anti-evolutionist, I'm honestly disappointed with the RCC's position towards the issue - I mean, it's not that they weren't once mistaken about the shape of the Earth because they adhered to the common beliefs of the time. These things distanced me from Catholicism, so I could de facto consider myself a non-denominational Christian at the moment, though I'm formally still a Catholic, for cultural reasons.
P.S. Byblos, feel free to bash me because of what I wrote here.
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John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
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St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
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Hi Dallas.
You can say I adhere to an Independent Evangelical group or as a song once quipped – a bapto-pentecoste-presbe-metho-evangelical-reformed into the image of Christ kind… that scares the devil out of his drawers and Methodist out of their pews, makes Hardcore Calvinist laugh with Armenians and Armenians best friends a Calvinist ever had or something like that!
Also note, American Catholic’s are far different than those in various European Countries. So be aware of Catholic stereotypes often painted by protestants. I meet many spirit filled saved by grace only America Catholics as well as many hard core superstitious ones too in America. There is a move within the Catholic church in America teaching to rely on the bible and its clear doctrines rather than man. So keep that in mind…
Be blest!
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You can say I adhere to an Independent Evangelical group or as a song once quipped – a bapto-pentecoste-presbe-metho-evangelical-reformed into the image of Christ kind… that scares the devil out of his drawers and Methodist out of their pews, makes Hardcore Calvinist laugh with Armenians and Armenians best friends a Calvinist ever had or something like that!
Also note, American Catholic’s are far different than those in various European Countries. So be aware of Catholic stereotypes often painted by protestants. I meet many spirit filled saved by grace only America Catholics as well as many hard core superstitious ones too in America. There is a move within the Catholic church in America teaching to rely on the bible and its clear doctrines rather than man. So keep that in mind…
Be blest!
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I'be been in many different denominations. I no longer believe in denominations and will not join another one. I'm self-described as post-evangelical, and inclined toward organic fellowships. Others have referred to me as modified ana-baptist. Bottom line is that I love and follow Christ.
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Bart, why do you no longer believe in denominations?Canuckster1127 wrote:I'be been in many different denominations. I no longer believe in denominations and will not join another one. I'm self-described as post-evangelical, and inclined toward organic fellowships. Others have referred to me as modified ana-baptist. Bottom line is that I love and follow Christ.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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I've left Institutional church. I believe the divisions cause more harm than good. I still love those who love Christ and remain. I just have to follow my conscience.
Dogmatism is the comfortable intellectual framework of self-righteousness. Self-righteousness is more decadent than the worst sexual sin. ~ Dan Allender
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I belong to Christ, i attend a Anglican church but i am not a "member" and will never become one.
To clarify not an Anglican member but i am a member of the congregation.
Daniel
To clarify not an Anglican member but i am a member of the congregation.
Daniel
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Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.Amen.
Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.Amen.
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Daniel, why won't you ever become a member of the Anglican church?Danieltwotwenty wrote:I belong to Christ, i attend a Anglican church but i am not a "member" and will never become one.
To clarify not an Anglican member but i am a member of the congregation.
Daniel
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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Because i dont see it as a nessesary part of my faith, if i moved area and had to change church's it might not be an Anglican one.
I think Christs love covers all denominations and i believe we should not identify ourselves by denomination but identify ourselves as followers of Christ.
From my experience there is so much animosity between denominations and to break down these barriers we have to forget about putting labels on people.
Daniel
I think Christs love covers all denominations and i believe we should not identify ourselves by denomination but identify ourselves as followers of Christ.
From my experience there is so much animosity between denominations and to break down these barriers we have to forget about putting labels on people.
Daniel
1Tim1:15-17
Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.Amen.
Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.Amen.
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Re: What are your denominations? and a question I have...
Methodist , very similar to baptism. I couldn't stand the Episcopalian services, way to formal for me.
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Re: What are your denominations? and a question I have...
The thought did cross my mind.RickD wrote:Byblos, I promise you that Dallas is not a pseudonym that I'm posting under. You can check his ip address if you don't believe me.
Let us proclaim the mystery of our faith: Christ has died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again.
Lord I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed.
Lord I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed.