Creation of life: precision engineering

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Hi

I thought I would share this with everyone.

Place the zodiac symbols in a circle. Each has an element of either earth, air, fire or water.
Map earth to carbon, air to nitrogen, fire to hydrogen and water to oxygen.
Put the sun in the centre as the fifth element and map that to phosphorous.

Then consider DNA which is made up of:
Adenine: C5 H5 N5
Guanine: C5 H5 N5 O
Cytosine: C4 H5 N3 O
Thymine: C5 H5 N2 O2
Phosphate: P O4
2-deoxyribose: C5 H9 O4

You can place each of the isotopes in the circle perfectly to create the following
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Here is what DNA looks like in 3D.
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As you can see, you get the double helix with adenine bonded with thymine and cytosene bonded with guanine.
2-deoxyribose forms the backbone and phosphate the "glue".
The circles are in balance and ordered.

Ancient science created before any knowledge of DNA, modern science, astronomy/the constellations and the fabric of life can be reconciled.

Is this sheer fluke? It certainly doesn't serve to support the argument that there was no intelligence behind the creation of human life.
If anything it is another notch in the argument that God does exist and science supports that.

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I don't understand the circle, please explain how the order is significant.

Also Shouldn't oxygen be fire and Hydrogen water?

The base state of nitrogen in this earth is N2, mostly in the air so that makes sense.
The base state of carbon is graphite C4 so that should be Earth.
But the base state of hydrogen is water on this globe(the gas base state is too unstable), and base state oxygen, O2, is necessary for all combustion.
Oxygen although it makes up most of the mass in H2O is commonly found in the air and is what drives all of the combustion that goes on in this earth.
Hydrogen is not necessary for combustion while oxygen is, and whenever hydrogen is flamed up it always turns into water.

Unless you mean that Hydrogen is fire because of nuclear fusion and that oxygen is water because it is the defining part of water... hmm
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Here is more info on DNA
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So what does the zodiac/chemical figure mean?

Also,
1) Where did the C4, N3, H9 symbols in the 2nd ring come from?
2) Why is the O4 from the phosphate in the 2nd ring?
3) What does the matching of different symbols across rings signify?
4) Why O2 and N2 in the outer ring?
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Why would we wish to mix the zodiac with DNA? What purpose does it serve with Christianity?
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Heaven is in the stars. Jesus told us:
"Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in heaven"

That is your link for the zodiac to Christianity. Jesus was a man on Earth and therefore God is in heaven.

Jesus connected heaven and Earth, like it or not,

All oxygen on the planet comes from water.
Hydrogen is higher up the reactive series and therefore more combustible and closer to fire.
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But why even mix it with the zodiac?
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In fact in many synagogues in ancient Israel the zodiac is actually stamped on the floors. I took this particular picture of one of these zodiac rings in the excavation site of Beth Alpha in Israel myself just a few months ago.

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zoegirl wrote:But why even mix it with the zodiac?
To tell a story using stars... But also theory.. Nothing that I would hang my hat on.
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zoegirl wrote:But why even mix it with the zodiac?
I have to admit, gman, when I hear anything being mixed with the zodiac, I equate that with astrology. And that raises a flag for me.
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RickD wrote:
zoegirl wrote:But why even mix it with the zodiac?
I have to admit, gman, when I hear anything being mixed with the zodiac, I equate that with astrology. And that raises a flag for me.
Yes... That is possible. I have addressed this in this post. I'll admit, it's a risk. But if the theory is correct, it's beautiful...

http://discussions.godandscience.org/vi ... =6&t=33976
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JB2011 wrote:Heaven is in the stars. Jesus told us:
"Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in heaven"

That is your link for the zodiac to Christianity. Jesus was a man on Earth and therefore God is in heaven.

Jesus connected heaven and Earth, like it or not,

All oxygen on the planet comes from water.
Hydrogen is higher up the reactive series and therefore more combustible and closer to fire.
Christian or not, I still dont see the pattern or supernatural fine tuning. Hydrogen gas may be more reactive and all but it still depends on oxygen gas for combustion(except in the case of the less efficient and unused hydrogen anaerobic cumbustion). Oxygen gas does not depend on hydrogen for efficient cumbustion. Cumbustion reqires a good oxidizer and the best one is oxygen gas itself. And ultimatly all hydrogen gas we get comes from water too...water is the source of both.
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