Why we are here

[CallMeDave]

but why?........

Think of God as the TOTAL embodiment of Love , in an infinite sense. He is thoroughly and completely the essence and character of love. He willingly chose to express this attribute by creating an entire Cosmos around US so we could have opportunity to return a portion of his love, enjoy the most meaningful relationship possible , and to be Ambassadors of his love , character, and nature. THAT is an awesome priveledge and responsibility . Its often difficult to grasp the depth of Gods love because here on Earth in our horizontal relationships...we cant come close to what that is. Just enjoy God and his love for you and appropriately respond to it. His greatest confirmation of his love is wrapped up in sending his own Son, Jesus, to die for us so we can live with God forever without end.

[Tina]

This idea has been churning in my head for a very long time. I keep wondering why we exist ( and I know there are many answers for that ) but I can't help but see us like soldiers... Like GOD is using us to prove a point that He is unbeatable. I mean....none of the terrible things would have happened if He would have stopped it in the beginning. Yes, I know, free will.......but He could have not put that tree there.......if the tree was not there, it wouldn't have happened. So, did the snake tempt us or did GOD? And it's not like we're useful to GOD in any other way. He is the Almighty GOD. He doesn't need help from anyone. I know some say it's cuz He wants a relationship with us, but they also say He was perfectly happy by Himself. And some say that we're here to learn and GOD wanted to be with people that weren't like robots, but when we get to heaven, won't we be like robots? And GOD knew from the very beginning everything that was and is gonna happen........He knew if this all happened, very very many people would end up in Hell.....tortured for all eternity.........wouldn't it be better to not exist at all than to be tortured forever? If He loves us, why would GOD go through with this?

I think the difficulty you made be having, is that everyone has their own ideas as to why God created us. Each to their own really and what they find a satisfactory reason for their self.

Firstly, why do you suppose that God is using us to prove a point that He is unbeatable? Who is God trying to prove this point to? Given God's existence, this doesn't really make sense to me. Although God is certainly sovereign over all, for God's own glory doesn't really sit right either with me for it suggests God was lacking of something.

One response that really makes sense for me is that God loves to love which is neverending and overflowing. Thus, there is a real need in God to create, not simply for His glory or to reveal His might, but to complement His own nature. It is not like God needs love though for in the Trinity we have love complete - the lover, beloved and love that exists between them. Only that His love is neverending. There is no limit to God's love.

My sister once rescued a flea-ridden kitten who had been tossed in a bin and almost lost in a garbage truck. She felt for it, a strong compassion and desire to care and look that poor little kitten. She paid several hundred dollars to a vet to get it back into good health. Why? She did not even know the kitten, could have just as easily turned a blind eye. But something pulled at her heart strings to take the kitten into her arms and nurture it back to good health. If we can be this way, how much more God who created us?

The kitten story perhaps explains why God took pitty on us and through Christ redeemed us to Himself. You're right, God knew at the very beginning what was going to happen. He knew those who would reject Him and not be able to fulfill His righteous standard (all of us), and those who did desire Him back. Without a freedom to choose there is no love. Love cannot be forced. Yet, where there is a real choice then one can still choose to not love, despise, hate or many other things. So aside from God, the only way for the ultimate good (love) to happen, is through creating a real freedom and ability to choose. And so to those who do not love God, God gives them their freedom to deny Him and closes their eyes; to those who love God, their eyes are open to His obvious existence. (Romans 1:20-21)

A question might then become, is it possible for God to create a world wherein all freely choose to love back? I don't believe so, but neither do I think it is necessary for an all-loving God to create such a world. Since in a world He created where some freely choose to deny Him, they stand on their own freely made decision. God's righteousness is not impinged but rather even becomes more emphasised in the face of hate and corruption. One can wonder why God created this world rather than another, but when all is said and done, creating is God's sovereign prerogative. And the fact we see much good and beauty in creation, the world runs for us quite stable and predictably, and each of us are wired with a moral conscience... such suggests God is good. Thus, we must presume a good and loving God has sufficient enought reason to create a world wherein many freely deny Him. Yet, just as many deny God so too many accept and desire to love God back volitionally.

Hope this helped you somewhat with your own thoughts.

I like what you said. A while after posting this I decided that I no longer think that GOD is "using" us for anything. I realize that GOD loves us enough that He doesn't control us and gives us freewill. I don't believe He took pity on us though, because I believe He made a plan and in the end, we'll find out what it all meant. Thank you ( and you others too ^^) for answering my question. GOD bless.

[Dallas]

I didn't necessarily read everything, just the first paragraph and the Title. If this means anything, i'll try to help.

My pastor was speaking about a year ago, and he said something that makes total sense. He said something around the lines that if Gods will is to have us to come to know him, then die right after it would be pointless because there would be no one spreading his word. So, He wants us to Get saved, then go out and spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Now, you don't have to become a member of the field of ministry (even though you already are) to serve Jesus. So, here's something to think about, I guess.

Uhm... I plan on serving the Lord for the rest of my life, reason being, I made a promise that I don't want to get into. But, throughout my whole life, I have never been so happy. It's a wonderful life, no matter the trials/tribulations you go through, He's always with you. But the question is, are you always with Him?