Neil Turok: Endless Universe
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Neil Turok: Endless Universe
Has someone read his book? (http://endlessuniverse.net/) Are there some problems with his theory?
I have not read his book yet, just discovered it.
I have not read his book yet, just discovered it.
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Re: Neil Turok: Endless Universe
Infinite regress alert... infinite regress alert...
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
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24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
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Re: Neil Turok: Endless Universe
Their theory is based on the cyclical model which results in all kinds of absurdities (such as time needing time at the rounding edge of a singularity before another bounce). I also doubt the book addresses the BVG theorem of 2003, which states that for any type of universe to be anthropic it must follow the inflationary model (having a Hubble rate of inflation greater than zero). The theorem further states that any inflationary model would have to have begun via a singularity. So it doesn't really matter how many bounces or cycles or bangs have occurred, every single one of them must have had a beginning. In other words, like Rick said, infinite regress on a cosmic scale, infinitely irrational.1over137 wrote:Has someone read his book? (http://endlessuniverse.net/) Are there some problems with his theory?
I have not read his book yet, just discovered it.
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Re: Neil Turok: Endless Universe
RickD wrote:Infinite regress alert... infinite regress alert...
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
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Re: Neil Turok: Endless Universe
Thanks Byblos : )Byblos wrote: Their theory is based on the cyclical model which results in all kinds of absurdities (such as time needing time at the rounding edge of a singularity before another bounce). I also doubt the book addresses the BVG theorem of 2003, which states that for any type of universe to be anthropic it must follow the inflationary model (having a Hubble rate of inflation greater than zero). The theorem further states that any inflationary model would have to have begun via a singularity. So it doesn't really matter how many bounces or cycles or bangs have occurred, every single one of them must have had a beginning. In other words, like Rick said, infinite regress on a cosmic scale, infinitely irrational.
I've just emailed your response to authors. Am interested if they respond.
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
Re: Neil Turok: Endless Universe
Not that I object but as a matter of courtesy you could have checked with me first.1over137 wrote:Thanks Byblos : )Byblos wrote: Their theory is based on the cyclical model which results in all kinds of absurdities (such as time needing time at the rounding edge of a singularity before another bounce). I also doubt the book addresses the BVG theorem of 2003, which states that for any type of universe to be anthropic it must follow the inflationary model (having a Hubble rate of inflation greater than zero). The theorem further states that any inflationary model would have to have begun via a singularity. So it doesn't really matter how many bounces or cycles or bangs have occurred, every single one of them must have had a beginning. In other words, like Rick said, infinite regress on a cosmic scale, infinitely irrational.
I've just emailed your response to authors. Am interested if they respond.
Let us proclaim the mystery of our faith: Christ has died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again.
Lord I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed.
Lord I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed.
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Re: Neil Turok: Endless Universe
I apologie. Sorry.
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
Re: Neil Turok: Endless Universe
No worries. Had I known though, I would have phrased it a bit differently but now you've peaked my interest, let me know if they respond.1over137 wrote:I apologie. Sorry.
Let us proclaim the mystery of our faith: Christ has died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again.
Lord I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed.
Lord I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed.
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Re: Neil Turok: Endless Universe
: ) sure. you are friend Byblos. thanks.Byblos wrote:No worries. Had I known though, I would have phrased a bit differently but now you've peaked my interest, let me know if they respond.1over137 wrote:I apologie. Sorry.
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
Re: Neil Turok: Endless Universe
Any time. Let's just hope what I said makes sense, considering I'm not a physicist.1over137 wrote:: ) sure. you are friend Byblos. thanks.Byblos wrote:No worries. Had I known though, I would have phrased a bit differently but now you've peaked my interest, let me know if they respond.1over137 wrote:I apologie. Sorry.
Let us proclaim the mystery of our faith: Christ has died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again.
Lord I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed.
Lord I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed.