I watched this very thought provoking debate today, was posted on John Lennox's twitter account yesterday. Hope you all enjoy it.
Making Sense of Suffering: Atheist philosopher Gideon Rosen debates Christian professor John Lennox at Princeton University
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMT-EdFH5Kc
John Lennox debates Gideon Rosen at Princeton
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John Lennox debates Gideon Rosen at Princeton
There are two types of people in our world: those who believe in Christ and those who will.
If Christianity is a man-made religion, then why is its doctrine vehemently against all of man's desires?
Every one that is of the truth hears my voice. Jesus from John 18:37
If Christianity is a man-made religion, then why is its doctrine vehemently against all of man's desires?
Every one that is of the truth hears my voice. Jesus from John 18:37
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Re: John Lennox debates Gideon Rosen at Princeton
To me the issue of suffering is not as big as it used to be when I was younger.
Why?
I have noticed that humans are never more in the "image of God" than when there is suffering.
People will suffer alongside complete strangers on the other side of the world, they will move "heaven and earth" to help someone they don't even know, because that someone is suffering.
Was that not what God did? Did God not suffer alongside Us in Christ?
Suffering exists because of many things, but God "allows" it to exist because we are never more human AND divine then when there is suffering.
When we get together to help "cure" suffering, it is a glimpse of "heaven on earth", of God IN US.
Why?
I have noticed that humans are never more in the "image of God" than when there is suffering.
People will suffer alongside complete strangers on the other side of the world, they will move "heaven and earth" to help someone they don't even know, because that someone is suffering.
Was that not what God did? Did God not suffer alongside Us in Christ?
Suffering exists because of many things, but God "allows" it to exist because we are never more human AND divine then when there is suffering.
When we get together to help "cure" suffering, it is a glimpse of "heaven on earth", of God IN US.
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Re: John Lennox debates Gideon Rosen at Princeton
Love John Lennox.
In the end, the problem of suffering shows how badly people need Christ in their lives. Many times, we need to be careful with these people and think about Christ on the cross before we select our words. Not all people can handle that their suffering or the suffering of others is quite simply put special pleading. They're literally pleading that God should have done the logically impossible physical universe along with humanity without free will. There is no evidence or philosophical proofs at odds in any way with the existence of God. In particular, the Christian one.
In the end, the problem of suffering shows how badly people need Christ in their lives. Many times, we need to be careful with these people and think about Christ on the cross before we select our words. Not all people can handle that their suffering or the suffering of others is quite simply put special pleading. They're literally pleading that God should have done the logically impossible physical universe along with humanity without free will. There is no evidence or philosophical proofs at odds in any way with the existence of God. In particular, the Christian one.