All the creatures of the sea; Global flood.

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Re: All the creatures of the sea; Global flood.

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Danieltwotwenty wrote:Fine I will do it tonight seeing I have a bye for basketball, I will keep you posted.

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There's basketball in Australia? I thought it was called "netball". :mrgreen:
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RickD wrote:
Danieltwotwenty wrote:Fine I will do it tonight seeing I have a bye for basketball, I will keep you posted.

If any Y.E.C's have a rebuttal please feel free to post.



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There's basketball in Australia? I thought it was called "netball". :mrgreen:
Maybe you like to wear skirts but not me. ;)
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Re: All the creatures of the sea; Global flood.

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Danieltwotwenty wrote:
RickD wrote:
Danieltwotwenty wrote:Fine I will do it tonight seeing I have a bye for basketball, I will keep you posted.

If any Y.E.C's have a rebuttal please feel free to post.



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There's basketball in Australia? I thought it was called "netball". :mrgreen:
Maybe you like to wear skirts but not me. ;)
I'm Scottish. They're kilts, not skirts.
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Re: All the creatures of the sea; Global flood.

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RickD wrote:
Danieltwotwenty wrote:
RickD wrote:
Danieltwotwenty wrote:Fine I will do it tonight seeing I have a bye for basketball, I will keep you posted.

If any Y.E.C's have a rebuttal please feel free to post.



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There's basketball in Australia? I thought it was called "netball". :mrgreen:
Maybe you like to wear skirts but not me. ;)
I'm Scottish. They're kilts, not skirts.
Don't forget your sporin laddy.
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Re: All the creatures of the sea; Global flood.

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Ok so I went to AIG website and could not locate an email address to pose my question, it seem they have not aptly named their site because they do not have an answer to my question and they have no means other than snail mail to pose it.

Unless someone else has a contact email for them.


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Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.Amen.
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Re: All the creatures of the sea; Global flood.

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Danieltwotwenty wrote:Fine I will do it tonight seeing I have a bye for basketball, I will keep you posted.

If any Y.E.C's have a rebuttal please feel free to post.



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I think the YEC view on that issue is that only nephesh (soulish) animals were killed in the Flood, so insects, amphibians, and fish - which aren't nephesh - survived.
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Calum wrote:
Danieltwotwenty wrote:Fine I will do it tonight seeing I have a bye for basketball, I will keep you posted.

If any Y.E.C's have a rebuttal please feel free to post.



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I think the YEC view on that issue is that only nephesh (soulish) animals were killed in the Flood, so insects, amphibians, and fish - which aren't nephesh - survived.

What about dolphins & wales etc.... they have a high intelligence.

In the case of dolphins they think it is greater than dogs, surely theses creatures would be soulish creatures.

Anway the text says anything that had the breath of life, not all sea creatures breathe the way we do but they still breathe.

*EDIT* If God only planned to kill only soulish creatures how many creatures at the time were soulish, did the ark need to be so big (according to Y.E.C. cubit interpretation) as I could not imagine there being many soulish creatures. Was a small bird soulish and if it was why couldn't an octopuss be soulish, as they seems to be more intelligent that a small bird like a dove?

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Re: All the creatures of the sea; Global flood.

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Danieltwotwenty wrote:
Calum wrote:
Danieltwotwenty wrote:Fine I will do it tonight seeing I have a bye for basketball, I will keep you posted.

If any Y.E.C's have a rebuttal please feel free to post.



Dan
I think the YEC view on that issue is that only nephesh (soulish) animals were killed in the Flood, so insects, amphibians, and fish - which aren't nephesh - survived.

What about dolphins & wales etc.... they have a high intelligence.

In the case of dolphins they think it is greater than dogs, surely theses creatures would be soulish creatures.

Anway the text says anything that had the breath of life, not all sea creatures breathe the way we do but they still breathe.


Dan
Dan, Wales is a country. I don't think it would have survived a global flood. :pound:
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24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.


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-Edward R Murrow




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