Forsaken and Forgotten ?

[RickD]

I try to be as exact as possible,so who said anything about Jesus' step father - twinc

Twinc, as I'm not really familiar with too many dead Catholic saints, I assumed when you were talking about St. Joseph, you meant the Joseph who was the husband of Mary, the Mother of Jesus. That would make that Joseph, Jesus' step dad, or perhaps, foster dad would be a better term?

[twinc]

is there only one St.Joseph - I mentioned latter day guardian and protector of the Holy Family and early Christians - twinc

[RickD]

is there only one St.Joseph - I mentioned latter day guardian and protector of the Holy Family and early Christians - twinc

Are you going to answer my question?
How did St. Joseph give us Christ and Christianity?

[twinc]

this is a Christian website and this a Bible/Scripture forum with me as a Catholic explaining scriptures - so here he lies buried forsaken and forgotten - he who sacrificied his all by incurring the full fury of the Sanhedrin in defending his saviour and ours at his trial,quickly tried a second time in his absence and crucified - on his return this noble nobilis decurio went boldly to Pilate and demanded the crucified body for burial against the rule that a crucified body warranted burning as not fit for burial - burial in the family tomb -this latter day guardian and protector of the Holy Family and early Christians was family and related to Mary and Jesus - from this guarded tomb[via St.Joseph] rose Christ and Christianity - consider now the full wrath of the Sanhedrin against Joseph and the early Christians - so Joseph and some early Christians sought and found refuge and sanctuary in his beloved England - here he lies forsaken and forgotten in his beloved England - why beloved is another enchanting story for a later date and topic - twinc

[RickD]

Twinc, this is what we are talking about, when we ask you to just come out with what you're trying to say. Instead of beating around the bush. You are talking about Joseph of Arimathea, not Joseph Mary's husband.
For those of us who aren't familiar with Catholic saints, Jesus' step dad, is the first "St.Joseph" that comes up in a google search.
So, let me get this right, Joseph of Aramithea brought us Christ and Christianity?

[twinc]

Twinc, this is what we are talking about, when we ask you to just come out with what you're trying to say. Instead of beating around the bush. You are talking about Joseph of Arimathea, not Joseph Mary's husband.
For those of us who aren't familiar with Catholic saints, Jesus' step dad, is the first "St.Joseph" that comes up in a google search.
So, let me get this right, Joseph of Aramithea brought us Christ and Christianity?

now stop nit picking and trying to fault and jealous because he did not grace America/Ireland with his presence but found refuge and sanctuary in his beloved England - twinc

[neo-x]

now stop nit picking and trying to fault and jealous because he did not grace America/Ireland with his presence but found refuge and sanctuary in his beloved England - twinc

[RickD]

now stop nit picking and trying to fault and jealous because he did not grace America/Ireland with his presence but found refuge and sanctuary in his beloved England - twinc

Twinc, you're a real hoot!! If I ever reach your age, I can only hope to have half as much spunk, as you have.
I already told you St. Patrick is my dead saint of choice. Who else offers green beer?

[RickD]

from this guarded tomb[via St.Joseph] rose Christ and Christianity - consider now the full wrath of the Sanhedrin against Joseph and the early Christians - so Joseph and some early Christians sought and found refuge and sanctuary in his beloved England - here he lies forsaken and forgotten in his beloved England - why beloved is another enchanting story for a later date and topic - twinc

First, twinc, I'm not diminishing Joseph of Arimathea in any way by saying that God didn't need Joseph, to raise Christ from the dead. Saying JofA is responsible for bringing us Christ and Christianity is a huge leap from what scripture says.

[PaulSacramento]

No MAN decides who is a saint, a Holy One.
That is for Christ to decide.
Most certainly there were probably many saints, Paul adresses his letters to "the saints".
Still, I am not Paul ( not that Paul anyways) nor have I been blessed by the HS with sight to KNOW who are the saints as decreed by Christ.
I am sure that Joe of Aremthia was a very cool dude and he did petition Pilot for the body and did place it in a grave that belonged to his family.
Of course Joe, Husband of Mary, took on to himself the burden of a pregnant wife ( Both could have been stoned) and raised and protected Jesus till the day he died, that must count for something too.
Long before Joe of Aramethia came along, there was Joe of bethlehem.
Just saying...

[RickD]

Yes, but Paul, according to twinc, Joe of Bethlehem never visited England, as J of A did. That makes him special.

[twinc]

from this guarded tomb[via St.Joseph] rose Christ and Christianity - consider now the full wrath of the Sanhedrin against Joseph and the early Christians - so Joseph and some early Christians sought and found refuge and sanctuary in his beloved England - here he lies forsaken and forgotten in his beloved England - why beloved is another enchanting story for a later date and topic - twinc

First, twinc, I'm not diminishing Joseph of Arimathea in any way by saying that God didn't need Joseph, to raise Christ from the dead. Saying JofA is responsible for bringing us Christ and Christianity is a huge leap from what scripture says.

thank you RickD - so lets see what scripture says about this huge leap viz "if Christ had not risen by being burnt and not buried our faith would have been in vain" - it is necessary not just to read scriptures but sometimes to read deep - twinc

[twinc]

Yes, but Paul, according to twinc, Joe of Bethlehem never visited England, as J of A did. That makes him special.

he might have done,had he lived.along with Mary and Lazarus and the other Christians that Joseph brought over with him out of reach of the long arm of the Jewish/Roman police - twinc

[PaulSacramento]

Yes, but Paul, according to twinc, Joe of Bethlehem never visited England, as J of A did. That makes him special.

he might have done,had he lived.along with Mary and Lazarus and the other Christians that Joseph brought over with him out of reach of the long arm of the Jewish/Roman police - twinc

Why didn't any of the early Church fathers mention this?

[RickD]

Yes, but Paul, according to twinc, Joe of Bethlehem never visited England, as J of A did. That makes him special.

he might have done,had he lived.along with Mary and Lazarus and the other Christians that Joseph brought over with him out of reach of the long arm of the Jewish/Roman police - twinc

Why didn't any of the early Church fathers mention this?

Because they were all Irish?