The Beloved Disciple ?

[twinc]

John was an Apostle - so who was the Beloved Disciple and why beloved - twinc

[Canuckster1127]

John referred to himself in his own writings as the disciple that Jesus Loved. Peter, Andrew and John are considered by many to be the "inner circle" of the disciples whom Jesus was the closest to.

[twinc]

it is even contested in some circles that John did not write the gospel attributed to him - anyway why was he especially beloved ? - btw consider that Jesus said to Peter "lovest thou me more than these",this would of course include John - twinc

[PaulSacramento]

In the Gospel of John only ONE person is called "the disciple whom you love" and that is Lazarus.
That the Gospel is attributed to John doesn't mean it was John, son of Zebedee and Brother of James BUT most scholars agree that it was at least ATTRIBUTED to him by the early church fathers.
Of course the GOJ, letters of John and Revelation of John are NOT all written the same way, most believe the 1John and the GOJ are the same writer, while 2 and 3John are a different one and that John of Patmos was NOT John Bar Zebedee.
Writing styles and all that, but the truth is we don't know for sure.
IMO, the GOJ is one of the most beautifully written works and that goes for 1John also.
Because so much in the GOJ takes place in and around Jerusalem, some do think that the GOJ was collaboration between the beloved disciple ( whomever that may be) and John Bar Zebedee and edited into its final format by Johns disciples after his death.

[twinc]

yes all good stuff so far - but why was who ever it was that was beloved beloved so to speak - twinc

[PaulSacramento]

yes all good stuff so far - but why was who ever it was that was beloved beloved so to speak - twinc

Jesus loved him dearly, probably because He understood and knew Jesus better than any of the other disciples.
As we can see from the GOJ and 1John, "John" was more in touch with Jesus' identity than the others AND understood the love of God far better than the others it seems.
Reading "john" one can see why Jesus felt a certain special feeling for him.

[twinc]

you will be surprised presently, to probably for the first time realise what that special bond/tie/relationship really was - it is all there in the Bible but has not been realised - meanwhile lets wait for other deductions and conclusions - you have come close in your analysis but not close enough so lets say for some special reason there was the understanding you allude to - twinc

[PaulSacramento]

you will be surprised presently, to probably for the first time realise what that special bond/tie/relationship really was - it is all there in the Bible but has not been realised - meanwhile lets wait for other deductions and conclusions - you have come close in your analysis but not close enough so lets say for some special reason there was the understanding you allude to - twinc

Dude, if you are going the "homosexual" route, don't.
That is old and tired and has been shown to be WAY off base.

[twinc]

no,no,not at all - it is much more refined and interesting than that but alas and sadly meets with preconceived resistance and not easily accepted in spite of being sound and founded on scriptural/Biblical evidence in NT - have another close look/search through your scriptures,like the Bereans of old,to see if these things be so - twinc

[PaulSacramento]

If you have something to say, just say it dude.

[twinc]

If you have something to say, just say it dude.

sure - my way - hold your horses - twinc

[twinc]

If you have something to say, just say it dude.

sure - my way - hold your horses - twinc

so we are back - standing by the Cross and just guess exactly what Jesus is saying and meaning whilst talking to his mother and John - if anyone knows tell it here and oblige - twinc

[PaulSacramento]

But standing by the cross of Jesus were His mother, and His mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. 26 When Jesus then saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing nearby, He *said to His mother, “ Woman, behold, your son!” 27 Then He *said to the disciple, “Behold, your mother!” From that hour the disciple took her into his own household.

[twinc]

But standing by the cross of Jesus were His mother, and His mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. 26 When Jesus then saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing nearby, He *said to His mother, “ Woman, behold, your son!” 27 Then He *said to the disciple, “Behold, your mother!” From that hour the disciple took her into his own household.

Paul did you ever for no rhyme or reason address your mother as woman - twinc

[Byblos]

I don't know about anyone else here but I am dancing with anticipation.