RickD wrote:
Maybe I see it a little differently, Zionist. I consider Anyone without faith in Christ, as an unbeliever, including Jews that don't have faith in Christ. And, I pray for unbelievers differently, than I pray for believers, for obvious reasons. Do you really think Jews don't need faith in Christ, for salvation? That's how I'm reading what you're saying. Please correct me if I'm not reading you correctly.
Thanks
Very tricky questions Rick.. Sorry I'm going to inject here.. I believe the answer is yes and no. But yes.. Jews do need Yeshua to become saved. No dual covenant theology needed.. However this salvation also comes with a huge warning. We cannot boast against Jews who are also a part of this tree. It's recorded in Romans 11: 17-21.
Romans 11: 17-21 17 If some of the branches (Jews) have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18
do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches (the Jewish branch). If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” 20 Granted. But they (Jews) were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith.
Do not be arrogant, but tremble. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.
Therefore we have to be very very careful with this stuff. How G-d is going to judge all this is beyond me (who is saved and who isn't) but it ultimately culminates in the belief in Yeshua or chief Rabbi taking the helm with full blown Torah (Jewish Law). Jewish Law will come back full circle.