Discussion about scientific issues as they relate to God and Christianity including archaeology, origins of life, the universe, intelligent design, evolution, etc.
thanks to recent advances in bio-inspired engineering, a team led by researchers at the California Institute of Technology (Caltech) and Harvard University have flipped that fable on its head: turning a solid element—silicon—and muscle cells into a freely swimming "jellyfish." ...
Because a particular function—swimming, say—doesn't necessarily emerge just from copying every single element of a swimming organism into a design, "our idea," she says, "was that we would make jellyfish functions—swimming and creating feeding currents—as our target and then build a structure based on that information." ...
Jellyfish are believed to be the oldest multi-organ animals in the world, possibly existing on Earth for the past 500 million years. Because they use a muscle to pump their way through the water, their function—on a very basic level—is similar to that of a human heart, which makes the animal a good biological system to analyze for use in tissue engineering. ...
"I was surprised that with relatively few components—a silicone base and cells that we arranged—we were able to reproduce some pretty complex swimming and feeding behaviors that you see in biological jellyfish," says Dabiri, with fluid-dynamics measurements that match up to those of the real animal. ...
This advance in bio-inspired engineering, the team says, demonstrates that it is inadequate to simply mimic nature: the focus must be on function. ...
Yet still:
"I'm pleasantly surprised at how close we are getting to matching the natural biological performance, but also that we're seeing ways in which we can probably improve on that natural performance. The process of evolution missed a lot of good solutions."
What is it going to take for these knuckle heads to recognize design? You'd think that all these engineering types would see that right away. But if the experts in in those fields don't see it, perhaps i can be excused for missing the boat as well.
sandy_mcd wrote:What is it going to take for these knuckle heads to recognize design? You'd think that all these engineering types would see that right away. But if the experts in in those fields don't see it, perhaps i can be excused for missing the boat as well.
You are right, they are knuckle heads.. I would say that they would be good candidates for the Discovery Institute too.. Our true workers for ID. Thank you..
"our idea," she says, "was that we would make jellyfish functions—swimming and creating feeding currents—as our target and then build a structure based on that information."
Building structures based on pre-exsisitng data and reproducing some pretty complex swimming and feeding behaviors.. How? By using intellect or ID.
Sign them up.
The heart cannot rejoice in what the mind rejects as false - Galileo
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Georg Friedrich Wilhelm Hegel
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. -Philippians 4:8
sandy_mcd wrote:But if the experts in in those fields don't see it, perhaps i can be excused for missing the boat as well.
NO. Follow your own heart and your own brain.
Hana, do I sense a slight mocking by you in the God and Science part of the G&S forum?
John 5:24 24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
1over137 wrote:Does that sound like mocking? I try to read it that way but am unable. (and haven't used any laughing smiley)
Hana, I sensed a very slight twinge of mocking. A teeny tiny twinge.
John 5:24 24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
What is it going to take for these knuckle heads to recognize design? You'd think that all these engineering types would see that right away. But if the experts in in those fields don't see it, perhaps i can be excused for missing the boat as well.
Romans 1:18,19,20,21,22,23
-“The Bible treated allegorically becomes putty in the hands of the exegete.” John Walvoord
"I'm not saying scientists don't overstate their results. They do. And it's understandable, too...If you spend years working toward a certain goal and make no progress, of course you are going to spin your results in a positive light." Ivellious
sandy_mcd wrote:What is it going to take for these knuckle heads to recognize design? You'd think that all these engineering types would see that right away. But if the experts in in those fields don't see it, perhaps i can be excused for missing the boat as well.
Yeah, yeah, I forgive you for being a knucle head, Sandy. Now...I'm still waiting for the billion dollars you promised me. My Rolls Royce Phantom is being delivered soon and I need that money.
FL
Hold everything lightly. If you don't, it will hurt when God pries your fingers loose as He takes it from you. -Corrie Ten Boom
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If they had a social gospel in the days of the prodigal son, somebody would have given him a bed and a sandwich and he never would have gone home.
Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:I'm still waiting for the billion dollars you promised me. My Rolls Royce Phantom is being delivered soon and I need that money. FL
First of all, I never promised you the money; i merely asked if you would risk your immortal soul for earthly rewards. But if you have already ordered the Rolls (why not a Bugatti or at least something fun to drive?) and you are willing to risk eternal damnation, i can send you a bit more (i wouldn't take that bet):
