Only 2 daughters in 70 souls?
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Only 2 daughters in 70 souls?
I was just shown this link http://www.sacred-texts.com/wmn/wb/wb15.htm. Were really only 2 daughters among 70 souls?The text also says: "We find at many points that the Bible Does not reckon women as souls." is that true?
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Re: Only 2 daughters in 70 souls?
two words....pure rubbish."We find at many points that the Bible Does not reckon women as souls." is that true?
btw, may be there were only two daughters and the rest were not mentioned by name or simply it was irrelevant for them to be mentioned as they were not part of the story being told, it could be lots of reasons.
It would be a blessing if they missed the cairns and got lost on the way back. Or if
the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
without.
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the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
without.
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Re: Only 2 daughters in 70 souls?
People will see what they want to see when it comes to text and it's interpretation.
What we have to ask, when we 'reach" a conclusion, is WHY and HOW we got there.
What we have to ask, when we 'reach" a conclusion, is WHY and HOW we got there.
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Re: Only 2 daughters in 70 souls?
My atheist friend says that God breathed into Adam the breath of life and woman created from his bone. Therefore man has soul whereas woman not. Thoughts?
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
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Re: Only 2 daughters in 70 souls?
Hana, does your atheist friend really believe in a literal Adam, and a literal Eve?1over137 wrote:My atheist friend says that God breathed into Adam the breath of life and woman created from his bone. Therefore man has soul whereas woman not. Thoughts?
John 5:24
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“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
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St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
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Re: Only 2 daughters in 70 souls?
It probably should not be taken literaly. Should I say this to him?
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
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For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
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Re: Only 2 daughters in 70 souls?
No.1over137 wrote:It probably should not be taken literaly. Should I say this to him?
What I mean, is that if your atheist friend doesn't believe in God, how does he make an argument, using Adam and Eve.
I'm not saying that Adam and Eve aren't literal people. Because I believe they were literal people. I'm just wondering why your friend believes they were literal people, when he doesn't even believe God literally exists. Understand?
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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Re: Only 2 daughters in 70 souls?
Take it this way:
If he believed in God and Bible, he would believe Genesis 2 and had problems with saying that woman do not have soul.
If he believed in God and Bible, he would believe Genesis 2 and had problems with saying that woman do not have soul.
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
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Re: Only 2 daughters in 70 souls?
You should ask him why on earth he thinks that being made from Adam's rib would mean she didn't have a soul. That's one heck of a leap. There are also philosophical reasons for thinking that a human without a soul is a self-contradiction, but you don't need to get into positive arguments at this stage.
And that, brothers and sisters, is the kind of foolishness you get people who insist on denying biblical theism. A good illustration of any as the length people will go to avoid acknowledging basic truths.Proinsias wrote:I don't think you are hearing me. Preference for ice cream is a moral issue
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Re: Only 2 daughters in 70 souls?
Hana, of course women have souls. It's just silly to think otherwise. If women didnt have souls, how would they know how to cook, clean, and bring man a beer?1over137 wrote:Take it this way:
If he believed in God and Bible, he would believe Genesis 2 and had problems with saying that woman do not have soul.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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Re: Only 2 daughters in 70 souls?
He says that God did not breathed 'the breath of life' into her.Jac3510 wrote:You should ask him why on earth he thinks that being made from Adam's rib would mean she didn't have a soul. That's one heck of a leap. There are also philosophical reasons for thinking that a human without a soul is a self-contradiction, but you don't need to get into positive arguments at this stage.
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
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Re: Only 2 daughters in 70 souls?
So, let me get this straight. Your friend believes Eve existed as a literal person, but doesn't believe God exists? What other random parts of the bible does he believe are true?He says that God did not breathed 'the breath of life' into her.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
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Re: Only 2 daughters in 70 souls?
Does it say that God made her with legs and arms? Nope.1over137 wrote:He says that God did not breathed 'the breath of life' into her.Jac3510 wrote:You should ask him why on earth he thinks that being made from Adam's rib would mean she didn't have a soul. That's one heck of a leap. There are also philosophical reasons for thinking that a human without a soul is a self-contradiction, but you don't need to get into positive arguments at this stage.
Does that means she didn't have any?
God made MAN ( humans) in His image.
Every living creature has a soul since, in hebrew" the term for soul is used interchangeably with "life" or "living being/creature".
The term soul tends to refer to a living creature.
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Re: Only 2 daughters in 70 souls?
Hana, let me ask you this. From where do your thoughts originate? From your mind, or your brain? What is your mind, if not part of your soul, or your very self?
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
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St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
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Re: Only 2 daughters in 70 souls?
Thanks PaulS.
Rick, he does not believe in God and does not know which Bible parts are true. He just tries to point to inconsistencies. Take it that he says: "If Bible was true then ..."
Rick, he does not believe in God and does not know which Bible parts are true. He just tries to point to inconsistencies. Take it that he says: "If Bible was true then ..."
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart