600+ commandments?
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600+ commandments?
I was shown this site: http://www.jewfaq.org/613.htm. So many commandments? I was stunned by some. Your opinion on the commandments?
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
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Re: 600+ commandments?
Yeah, they had a lot of rules but it was a necessity of the time.
Israel needed all those rules to keep the covenant with God as His Holy People.
Many of those Laws were or had causal laws ( If you do this...), they were NOT authorizations or condonings of those acts, but causal laws that were put into place ( an example is the rape laws and slave laws).
Israel needed all those rules to keep the covenant with God as His Holy People.
Many of those Laws were or had causal laws ( If you do this...), they were NOT authorizations or condonings of those acts, but causal laws that were put into place ( an example is the rape laws and slave laws).
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Re: 600+ commandments?
Don't be surprised, 613 isn't so much. I'm quite sure that there are more than 613 laws in Slobovia.1over137 wrote:I was shown this site: http://www.jewfaq.org/613.htm. So many commandments? I was stunned by some. Your opinion on the commandments?
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If they had a social gospel in the days of the prodigal son, somebody would have given him a bed and a sandwich and he never would have gone home.
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If they had a social gospel in the days of the prodigal son, somebody would have given him a bed and a sandwich and he never would have gone home.
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Re: 600+ commandments?
Do we have to follow those commandments?
By the way, the number 162 reads: "Not to eat the flesh of an ox that was condemned to be stoned (Ex. 21:28) "
Ox condemned to be stoned? Why?
By the way, the number 162 reads: "Not to eat the flesh of an ox that was condemned to be stoned (Ex. 21:28) "
Ox condemned to be stoned? Why?
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
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Re: 600+ commandments?
I do. It's really not that difficult, once I stopped committing sodomy with my Father's brother(#94), the rest are easy.Do we have to follow those commandments?
because the ox was participating in #105:Ox condemned to be stoned? Why?
I also forgot, I had some trouble with #11:That a woman shall not have intercourse with a beast (Lev. 18:23) (CCN118).
For breakfast, I used to put ex lax in my grandmother's hot cocoa, and I used to make her eat pancakes I made out of plaster of Paris.To honor the old and the wise (Lev. 19:32) (CCA17).
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
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St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
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Re: 600+ commandments?
or simply that the ox was stoned (caught with enough weed to be stoned)because the ox was participating in #105:
It would be a blessing if they missed the cairns and got lost on the way back. Or if
the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
without.
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the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
without.
//johnadavid.wordpress.com
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Re: 600+ commandments?
Be serious please.
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
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Re: 600+ commandments?
That's just an expression... never mind.1over137 » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:44 am
Be serious please.
It would be a blessing if they missed the cairns and got lost on the way back. Or if
the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
without.
//johnadavid.wordpress.com
the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
without.
//johnadavid.wordpress.com
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Re: 600+ commandments?
???neo-x wrote:That's just an expression... never mind.1over137 » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:44 am
Be serious please.
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
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Re: 600+ commandments?
Ex 21:28b indicates that an animal can be held responsible for its actions. (But I prefer neo-x's answer!)1over137 wrote: condemned to be stoned? Why?
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Hold everything lightly. If you don't, it will hurt when God pries your fingers loose as He takes it from you. -Corrie Ten Boom
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If they had a social gospel in the days of the prodigal son, somebody would have given him a bed and a sandwich and he never would have gone home.
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If they had a social gospel in the days of the prodigal son, somebody would have given him a bed and a sandwich and he never would have gone home.
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Re: 600+ commandments?
It's not because the animal is responsible for its actions, it's to protect other human beings 1) from being attacked again, and 2) from eating the flesh of an animal who took away one of their own (as if in celebration of) and also who might be diseased (they didn't have a name for it but I'm reasonably sure they had mad cow back then too).Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:Ex 21:28b indicates that an animal can be held responsible for its actions. (But I prefer neo-x's answer!)1over137 wrote: condemned to be stoned? Why?
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Re: 600+ commandments?
another rule is: "243.That a transgressor shall not testify (Ex. 23:1)"
But what if someone was falsely called a transgressor? How can he defense himself? If you have a one-on-one case without additional witnesses then what?
But what if someone was falsely called a transgressor? How can he defense himself? If you have a one-on-one case without additional witnesses then what?
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
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Re: 600+ commandments?
We need to remember that many of those laws made sense to the people ( hebrews) of that time and they would have understood them better.
We have a written account of them of course BUT I am sure there was much discussion by the people and the applicable authorities as to what they meant and why.
We have a written account of them of course BUT I am sure there was much discussion by the people and the applicable authorities as to what they meant and why.
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Re: 600+ commandments?
Paul: Do we or do we not have to obey all those laws and why?
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
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Re: 600+ commandments?
Well, not to get into TOO MUCH of a theological debate about what Christ said in regards to Him Fullfilling the Law, we have to take those Laws and apply them into the context of OUR lives, just as the Hebrews did in their lives.1over137 wrote:Paul: Do we or do we not have to obey all those laws and why?
We have different methods of putting people on trial, capital punishment is NOT an option in many places and even in the ones that it is, it is only applicable to serious crimes that involve the killing of another (typically).
Do we HAVE to obey those laws? No.
Should we perhaps obey some of them? Perhaps.
It is up to the individual to decide.