So are you an anti-Semite, Butterfly? Your words can indict you of this. And again you offend many… You clearly stated and define what their perceptions were – oppression on women, killing of innocents, oppression, slavery, etc. and etc.,, a tribal WAR GOD that reflected what belief system?Butterfly wrote:Sorry Mr. Admin, no matter how much you try you cannot "justify" your twisting of my words, and trying to stuff them down my throat. It is entirely different to say someone is making something up specifically to justify their actions, then to say people are creating a god to explain the way they perceive reality. I am saying that the Hebrews, like many other people living at that time-period created gods to fit their perceptions, and explain how the world was created and who created it.
Even your new answer still verifies what I said: "After all - you did write - tribal war god Yahweh was created in their own minds. They didn't purposely make up a god to justify anything, Yahweh just reflected their belief system of the time-period."
Now re-read what you wrote:
And add this to what I wrote:Butterfly wrote:…I am saying that the Hebrews, like many other people living at that time-period created gods to fit their perceptions, and explain how the world was created and who created it.
“Do you see your own contradiction = 'tribal war god Yahweh was created in their own minds' = and then in same breath write: 'They didn't purposely make up a god to justify anything.' How can they create but not purposely make up a god to justify their belief system of the time-period and be calling one Yahweh?
“So Thank you for again verifying that your premise is and was indeed this: "Man made up the bible god to justify the oppression of women, killing of innocents, justify slavery.”
The real reason for your premise is that you were really hurt by a man or men – maybe your father – and interjecting that disdain I mentioned onto the bible and God and onto this forum. You seek a reason for the pain and wish to put God on trial and kill him for your pain. Such pain will negatively affect your marriage with the passage of time. I am actually trying to help you...
How can you actually justly prove a god you claim does not exist committed moral atrocities just to attack the faith of Christians - when you absolutely refuse to hear the truth of the defense? That is called injustice, does in not? Therefore what it proves is that you are unjust and only offer an hang’em high verdict...Butterfly wrote: Sorry brother, you can draw any implication you want from my statement that "the Bible contains moral atrocities attributed to its god, Yahweh", but that does NOT mean I said Christians who believe the Bible are moral monsters. Once again, you are twisting my words to mean something other than I intended. …
That is the insult… and you need to be called on it - not coddled...
My real concern for you (and others) – is this reality – Luke 4:17, 18, 19, 20… You are misreading me and others here.
You will not hear the truth, and you reject the truth due to the hurt you incurred in your past regarding men - especially Christian men…
Luke 4:17, 18, 19, 20 expresses the true reality of God you seek to mock, put on trial, bear false witness against, refuse to hear his defense, so you can kill him for all the pain you suffered...
Because you insulted Christian men due to whatever happened in your past. And no – not defensive at all – but aggressively seeking offering healing to a broken heart…yoursButterfly wrote:Why are you so defensive?
No you have not countered any arguments because you cannot listen to reason due to the hurt inside that clouds your perception.Butterfly wrote: For your information, I have not ignored what others who disagree with me have said, rather I have countered their arguments. Isn't that what debates, and discussions are all about?
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