Well i had like a 1,000 word post on this but it confused me so i'll just sum it up simply.
Was hitler part of gods plan to restore israel?
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Everything is part of God's plan.
That doesn't mean that God CAUSES things to go a certain way or that God MAKES people do certain things.
That doesn't mean that God CAUSES things to go a certain way or that God MAKES people do certain things.
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Maybe so!!! What if Hitler asked for forgiveness and repented before his death, I would say that even Hitler could be a saved man.
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Speculation will never gets you anywhere, just adds confusion and misdirection.
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Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.Amen.
Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.Amen.
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Re: Israel
according to romans 13:1 god puts all leaders in power. but then that means divine right was true, and we don't actually live in a democracy..... my head is spinning (not that I believe in divine right or that we don't live in a democracy)
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Considering what that would mean to him ( Hitler) I doubt very much if he could repent and ask for forgiveness.1stjohn0666 wrote:Maybe so!!! What if Hitler asked for forgiveness and repented before his death, I would say that even Hitler could be a saved man.
That would mean that he would become self-aware of all the pain and suffering he caused and inflicted on everyone, that he would feel their pain and suffering.
Thing about that.
Do you think someone like Hitler would do that?
Then there is the issue that Hitler blasphemed against the HS, which is an unforgivable sin.
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I think hitler was probably regretted more that he never got the chance to complete his plans.
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I think Hitler's biggest regret would be that he never got to watch Seinfeld. He would've loved the Soup Nazi. "You want bread? NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!!"Murray wrote:I think hitler was probably regretted more that he never got the chance to complete his plans.
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Here is a great site full of hatred against the Jews, presented to look reasonable and palatable for Western sensibilities:
www.radioislam.org/
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www.radioislam.org/
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If they had a social gospel in the days of the prodigal son, somebody would have given him a bed and a sandwich and he never would have gone home.
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Again, I think that's another issue of the heart - for example, it's very easy to say something when you are in a bad mood but in fact do not mean it, I'm sure we've all been there. Maybe not necessarily cursing God, but you understand the meaning of what I'm saying here.PaulSacramento wrote: Then there is the issue that Hitler blasphemed against the HS, which is an unforgivable sin.
What would you define blasphemy against the HS as Paul?
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