1stjohn0666 wrote:33:20 But he added, “You cannot see my face, for no one can 57 see me and live.” 58
57 tn In view of the use of the verb “can, be able to” in the first clause, this imperfect tense is given a potential nuance.
58 tn Gesenius notes that sometimes a negative statement takes the place of a conditional clause; here it is equal to “if a man sees me he does not live” (GKC 498 §159.gg). The other passages that teach this are Gen 32:30; Deut 4:33, 5:24, 26; Judg 6:22, 13:22, and Isa 6:5.
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Exodus 24 comes before chapter 33...
Please note:
Exodus 24:9, 10, 11, 12. "
Then Moses went up, also Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel, 10 and they saw the God of Israel. And there was under His feet as it were a paved work of sapphire stone, and it was like the very heavens in its clarity. 11 But on the nobles of the children of Israel He did not lay His hand. So they saw God, and they ate and drank." NKJV
Moses desired to see the full glory of the Lord (Exodus 33:18c) Moses desired to see God in his full complete majestic self. As noted above, people did see God but not all of God - they only were permitted to see one of the presences of the Lord at a time, not his whole Presence (Panyim) all at once. This was for their protection. The the Lord said the following to Moses about seeing all of him in full majesty:
Exodus 33:20, 23, "But He said, "You cannot see My face (Panyim - Presence(s), for no man can see Me and live!" 23 "Then I will take My hand away and you shall see My back, but My face ((Panyim - Presence(s) shall not be seen." NASB
I placed the Hebrew plural Noun - Panyim right after the word face in text. Panyim means presence's' / the entire complexity of a person / It also can mean Face but not in the sense the westerners think of a face as in a picture but more as the window that reveals all a person is - all emotion, thought, including looks of acceptance , rejection, disdain, pleasure, etc that one's face reveal about the entire person at any given moment.
Moses desired to see all of God - his entire presences in His one presence. Moses saw three panyim as did Abraham -Isaac - Jacob did and others later would. God is self existing and His presences are also self existing as well too. To put it more in a biblical manner that the reader might explore on his/her own - You Have the self existing Will, the self existing Word, self existing Power of God that make up the Essence of God's Person. Due the God's self existing nature from the Will, proceeds the Word and Power like Arms/Hands and each able to self exist because it is God's nature to be self existing. The Living Word of God and the Living Power of God - each live self existing...expressing the Will of the Will. That is how Jesus explained things in the gospels and in John specifically.
Moses saw the Word - Messenger YHWH in the burning bush then three distinct manifestations of God's Panyim very often - as so noted in Deut 33:2 as an example of this, "He said: "
The LORD came from Sinai and dawned over them from Seir; he shone forth from Mount Paran. He came with myriads of holy ones from the south, from his mountain slopes. " NASB
Johnny666 - you do not understand God's simplicity concerning his self existing Nature and try to lead others away from God into cultic group think about a different Jesus that cannot save.
Isaiah 2:22 NIV,
Stop trusting in mere humans, who have but a breath in their nostrils. Why hold them in esteem?
Jer 17:5 NIV
This is what the LORD says: "Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who draws strength from mere flesh and whose heart turns away from the LORD.
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