Sam, it depends on what "that time" really was. It's Hugh Ross' belief and Rich Deem's, that the entire population of the world lived in one area at the time of the biblical flood. So, while the flood wasn't global, it was universal, in that it killed all human life except for eight.Sam1995 wrote:Quick question, were there people on every land mass in the world at that time? Because if not, a global flood doesn't logically add up
I don't know the answer to this, quite confident someone here does however
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Robert Ballard finding evidence of a Global Flood
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John 5:24
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Depends on when you think the global flood happened. If you take to to be less than 6000 years ago like most young-Earth creationists believe, then yes, there is loads of evidence to suggest humans had spread to most parts of the world. If you believe it happened more like 30,000 to 40,000 years ago, then humans would not have spread nearly as far.Quick question, were there people on every land mass in the world at that time? Because if not, a global flood doesn't logically add up
I don't know the answer to this, quite confident someone here does however
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Based mainly on mitochondrial genetics and archaeological finds, maps like this are useful.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map-o ... ations.jpg
Each colored ring shows the general time frame when humans (homo sapiens) reached that part of the world, in thousands of years.
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Thanks for your responses guys, something to think about!
Well, I am an OEC so I'll be looking at this from that perspective!
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Well, I am an OEC so I'll be looking at this from that perspective!
You're all great people! Pleasure to be a part of the forum!
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Here Sam. Not sure if you saw this yet:Sam1995 wrote:Thanks for your responses guys, something to think about!
Well, I am an OEC so I'll be looking at this from that perspective!
You're all great people! Pleasure to be a part of the forum!
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http://www.godandscience.org/apologetic ... flood.html
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
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St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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Aye, I had seen it only a couple of days ago - made some good points!RickD wrote:Here Sam. Not sure if you saw this yet:Sam1995 wrote:Thanks for your responses guys, something to think about!
Well, I am an OEC so I'll be looking at this from that perspective!
You're all great people! Pleasure to be a part of the forum!
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http://www.godandscience.org/apologetic ... flood.html
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Your statement somehow comes like "if you believe in bible than global flood is a no brainer."?Bible believing Christians worried about evidence that might actually support a global flood. Interesting.
The geography matters most, was the earth's landmass the same as it today, were humans present in Australia or america when this flood occurred?When we say something has a global impact, we are saying it effects the whole world.
It would be a blessing if they missed the cairns and got lost on the way back. Or if
the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
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the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
without.
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You can take the statement however you like. The statement is just what it is, questioning why Christians (OEC) would be so opposed to evidence that might align with a global flood event.neo-x wrote:Your statement somehow comes like "if you believe in bible than global flood is a no brainer."?Bible believing Christians worried about evidence that might actually support a global flood. Interesting.
The geography matters most, was the earth's landmass the same as it today, were humans present in Australia or america when this flood occurred?When we say something has a global impact, we are saying it effects the whole world.
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Not really opposing, simply trying to find what makes the most sense within scripturejlay wrote:You can take the statement however you like. The statement is just what it is, questioning why Christians (OEC) would be so opposed to evidence that might align with a global flood event.neo-x wrote:Your statement somehow comes like "if you believe in bible than global flood is a no brainer."?Bible believing Christians worried about evidence that might actually support a global flood. Interesting.
The geography matters most, was the earth's landmass the same as it today, were humans present in Australia or america when this flood occurred?When we say something has a global impact, we are saying it effects the whole world.
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Jlay, I'm confused. How does your questioning why OEC Christians are opposed to evidence that might align with a global flood, follow from the article that presents no evidence for a global flood?jlay wrote:
You can take the statement however you like. The statement is just what it is, questioning why Christians (OEC) would be so opposed to evidence that might align with a global flood event.
Bart titled this thread "Robert Ballard finding evidence for a global flood". Where in the article does Ballard offer evidence of a global flood?
I have no problem discussing evidence of a global flood, if someone presents such evidence. I wasn't even having a problem with a global flood in this thread. My problem is in why Bart titled the thread the way he did.
If Bart started this thread with the intentions of stirring the pot, he succeeded.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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Re: Robert Ballard finding evidence of a Global Flood
Sorry for confusion on the Thread Title. I didn't mean to overstate the claims of the article.
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Re: Robert Ballard finding evidence of a Global Flood
Rick,
I read the article. Agreed, it only presents evidence of a major flood around the time of Noah. No where in this have I argued for a global flood.
I read the article. Agreed, it only presents evidence of a major flood around the time of Noah. No where in this have I argued for a global flood.
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