Tonight I had a live debate with a Gnostic (sort of a Gnostic-lite) and an internet-radio program. Here's the link if you are interested:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/messiahcom ... -talk-show
The interview was cut off due to time restrictions (I was in mid-sentence when the connection got cut off!), but we're going to have part two of the debate tomorrow (5/25) at 1pm EST. The link to part two is:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/messiahcom ... -talk-show
You can listen live or afterwards at the same link if you are so inclined.
Debate I had with a Gnostic
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Debate I had with a Gnostic
And that, brothers and sisters, is the kind of foolishness you get people who insist on denying biblical theism. A good illustration of any as the length people will go to avoid acknowledging basic truths.Proinsias wrote:I don't think you are hearing me. Preference for ice cream is a moral issue
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Re: Debate I had with a Gnostic
Jac thank you for sharing this.
Is there a transcript available? being not a native english speaker, it becomes easier for me to listen with a transcript.
Thanks
Is there a transcript available? being not a native english speaker, it becomes easier for me to listen with a transcript.
Thanks
It would be a blessing if they missed the cairns and got lost on the way back. Or if
the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
without.
//johnadavid.wordpress.com
the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
without.
//johnadavid.wordpress.com
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Re: Debate I had with a Gnostic
There is not, but I wouldn't mind trying one up. It would take a minute, of course, but I don't see why I couldn't do it middle of next week.
And that, brothers and sisters, is the kind of foolishness you get people who insist on denying biblical theism. A good illustration of any as the length people will go to avoid acknowledging basic truths.Proinsias wrote:I don't think you are hearing me. Preference for ice cream is a moral issue
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Re: Debate I had with a Gnostic
I'm listening to the first part right now...you are talking about faith and Jesus and meditation...
I have no trouble listening to you, actually its the other guy is hard to understand, his sound quality is poor.
I have no trouble listening to you, actually its the other guy is hard to understand, his sound quality is poor.
It would be a blessing if they missed the cairns and got lost on the way back. Or if
the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
without.
//johnadavid.wordpress.com
the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
without.
//johnadavid.wordpress.com
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Re: Debate I had with a Gnostic
Huh, chance to hear your voice? 
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
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Re: Debate I had with a Gnostic
I can't wait to listen. Thanks Jac. 
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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You can't wait to hear Jac's word?RickD wrote:I can't wait to listen. Thanks Jac.
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
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Re: Debate I had with a Gnostic
Jac's from Atlanta. I want to hear me sum Southern fire!1over137 wrote:You can't wait to hear Jac's word?RickD wrote:I can't wait to listen. Thanks Jac.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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Have you ever heard some Slovak fire?RickD wrote:Jac's from Atlanta. I want to hear me sum Southern fire!1over137 wrote:You can't wait to hear Jac's word?RickD wrote:I can't wait to listen. Thanks Jac.
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
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I'm afraid I wouldn't know it if I heard it. Yo no comprendo Slovako.1over137 wrote:Have you ever heard some Slovak fire?RickD wrote:Jac's from Atlanta. I want to hear me sum Southern fire!1over137 wrote:You can't wait to hear Jac's word?RickD wrote:I can't wait to listen. Thanks Jac.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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Re: Debate I had with a Gnostic
Professor Morrison, I listened to a quick few minutes, and it sounded like the other guy was speaking with a mouthful of marbles. Is the whole podcast like that?
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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Re: Debate I had with a Gnostic
Unfortunately, yes. He has a speech and hearing impediment, so he has a think accent. I got used to it pretty quickly, though.
And that, brothers and sisters, is the kind of foolishness you get people who insist on denying biblical theism. A good illustration of any as the length people will go to avoid acknowledging basic truths.Proinsias wrote:I don't think you are hearing me. Preference for ice cream is a moral issue
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Ok, I've listened to about the first 23 minutes, and I believe he suffers from a "reality" impediment. Professor Morrison, you are doing a great job explaining your points so far. But I have to ask you how difficult it was for you to keep from busting a gut laughing at some of his answers. I'd love to have seen the look on your face during some of his responses.
Now back to the podcast...
Now back to the podcast...
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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Are you Proffesor? Not B.A., M.A.? Then you need to update your blog.
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
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Re: Debate I had with a Gnostic
I was too busy straining to understand what he was saying . . . if I'd burst out into laughter, I would have lost him for sure! Seriously, though, the sad part is that there are a lot of people who have very similar beliefs to that. I'm sure we've all met them -- I have. A lot. I've done a lot of ministry with gnostic/post-modern/eastern-influenced "Christians." So, for me, while his arguments were about as vapid as "arguments" can be, they pointed all the same to a very real cancer infesting our churches (not to be overly dramatic, or anythingRickD wrote:Ok, I've listened to about the first 23 minutes, and I believe he suffers from a "reality" impediment. Professor Morrison, you are doing a great job explaining your points so far. But I have to ask you how difficult it was for you to keep from busting a gut laughing at some of his answers. I'd love to have seen the look on your face during some of his responses.
Now back to the podcast...
).Associate professor, actually. I don't know about Europe, but here'n 'merica, all you gotsta have to be a prof is eighteen accredited hours of master's level work in the subject you're teaching. Since I'm about to complete my second master's, I'm very well above that threshold.1over137 wrote:Are you Proffesor? Not B.A., M.A.? Then you need to update your blog.
I expect I'll go back for a PhD sooner rather than later, but my wife has forbidden me from pursuing any further education for a little bit. She says she's tired of me being in school. Something about missing me, which is just odd, because I didn't know that wives missed their husbands. I was always under the impression that they liked it when we were gone, but I gave up trying to figure out women years ago. That is a subject I definitely am not qualified to teach.
And that, brothers and sisters, is the kind of foolishness you get people who insist on denying biblical theism. A good illustration of any as the length people will go to avoid acknowledging basic truths.Proinsias wrote:I don't think you are hearing me. Preference for ice cream is a moral issue