Your Creation stance?

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Your Creation stance?

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Can some of you guys give your views on your creation stance and why you believe it? I don't know to much about this topic and would like to know a lot more.
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I believe in creation ex nihilo, that God created the Universe at the time of the big bang out of nothing. That the scientific observations about a 14Bil year old universe is reasonable. I believe the creation story described in Genesis 1 and 2 is true, but I interpret "Day" to be a long period of time. I also believe that the order is correct, despite appearing slightly out of order is reading it casually. God created the first living organism by miraculous means, and not by fluke inorganic chemical reactions. Organisms that have lived on earth have been created uniquely by God according to His will. I am comfortable with moderate changes among species, like a leopard and a snow leopard, due to environment. But God may have created them uniquely as well. I believe God created one man, and one women out of that man and placed them in a "good" garden. I believe when they sinned, creation did not change, but their soul was burdened by the death of sin. I believe God is now resting from his creation work. I label my creation stance Progressive Creation, or Day Age Creation.

The organization Reasons to Believe lines up with my views nearly 100%.
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I lean towards Theistic Evolution as that is where I think the evidence points but I do not hold dogmatically to that, I still think Y.E.C & O.E.C are possibilities.
Whatever the case may be I still believe that there is an intellect behind it all, only nothing comes from nothing so there need to be something that is unmoved.

I hope this makes my position clear. lol
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Hi Wannalearn,

I believe in OEC/Progressive creationism, just like the owner of GodandScience.org, and also Reasons.org believes here. I believe it because I see it's the most consistent with all of scripture, as well as the evidence I see in nature.
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Thank you. I think I lean towards progressive creationism. But will still keep researching it to find out more. As I have heard YEC has some errors in it.
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YEC has major scientific errors, to be clear. I'm not sure there are any theological errors.
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I lean towards Theistic Evolution with heavy influences by God throughout the entire process.
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RickD wrote:Hi Wannalearn,

I believe in OEC/Progressive creationism, just like the owner of GodandScience.org, and also Reasons.org believes here. I believe it because I see it's the most consistent with all of scripture, as well as the evidence I see in nature.
Same here, so I ditto that...
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EVolution.

Fixed it, Dan. :lol:
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Neha wrote:Ecolution.
Care to expand on that Neha, it sounds interesting.
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Danieltwotwenty wrote:
Neha wrote:Evolution.
Care to expand on that Neha, it sounds interesting.
Yes, please explain. I'd love to hear how a process can be its own cause.
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I am sure you have heard it plenty of times before. ;)
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WannaLearn wrote:Thank you. I think I lean towards progressive creationism. But will still keep researching it to find out more. As I have heard YEC has some errors in it.
My bad i ment OEC sorry what i said didnt make sense.
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Neha wrote:I am sure you have heard it plenty of times before. ;)
I have, and every time I hear it it makes less and less sense. :ebiggrin:
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Byblos wrote:
Neha wrote:I am sure you have heard it plenty of times before. ;)
I have, and every time I hear it it makes less and less sense. :ebiggrin:
I understand.... And disagree. :ebiggrin:
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