Lennon's imagine! utopian dream or a possibility?

[neo-x]

What do you think?

[RickD]

That is, without doubt, THE single most overrated song of all-time!

That's the ultimate pipe dream of those without Christ.

I had a friend a while back, who was playing 2 songs. One was Amazing Grace. The other was Imagine. Two polar opposites. The first song, Amazing Grace, is a beautiful song about Christ's Grace. The second song, Imagine, a anti-God song about a humanist utopia pipe dream.

[Silvertusk]

That will all be obliterated in the firey depths of the Sun as it expand to swallow the solar system before it goes nova.

[Thadeyus]

That will all be obliterated in the firey depths of the Sun as it expand to swallow the solar system before it goes nova.

Sorry to nit pick, but I didn't think our Sun had enough mass to nova? I thought it's fate was as a simple, glowing ember of a spent star? Brown dwarf or something?

Though, in the long term, you are quite right and the death of the Sun will consume pretty much all of the inner planets. Not sue if it's death-throws of expansion will reach out to the gas giants.

I do admit to not minding Lennon's song. Though my tastes in music are of a more eclectic.

[Danieltwotwenty]

I think the biggest issue is that mankind no matter what will find any excuse to hate another, even John Lennon had splits with Yoko because they could not stand each other sometimes.

The world can live as one, but we can't.

Nice song though, it does inspire hope and I hope it does inspire people to be better to one another.

[Furstentum Liechtenstein]

Lennon: he spent too much time in ashrams and that screwed with his head.

FL

[Silvertusk]

That will all be obliterated in the firey depths of the Sun as it expand to swallow the solar system before it goes nova.

Sorry to nit pick, but I didn't think our Sun had enough mass to nova? I thought it's fate was as a simple, glowing ember of a spent star? Brown dwarf or something?

Though, in the long term, you are quite right and the death of the Sun will consume pretty much all of the inner planets. Not sue if it's death-throws of expansion will reach out to the gas giants.

I do admit to not minding Lennon's song. Though my tastes in music are of a more eclectic.

Heard it is big enough to go nova just not supernova.

[Furstentum Liechtenstein]

Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Hare Krishna, Krishna, Krishna, Hare Rama, Rama, Rama, Hare Hare, Rama Krishna, Rama Hare, Hare Krishna.

Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

FL

[B. W.]

That is, without doubt, THE single most overrated song of all-time!

That's the ultimate pipe dream of those without Christ.

I had a friend a while back, who was playing 2 songs. One was Amazing Grace. The other was Imagine. Two polar opposites. The first song, Amazing Grace, is a beautiful song about Christ's Grace. The second song, Imagine, a anti-God song about a humanist utopia pipe dream.

Ditto..

Very overrated song, I think the music was made to chime with a Hindu chant.

Look at all the people in the picture - after death - nothing...

Ecclesiastes says it best - All is Vanity

Yet, there is great a beyond after we die and Jesus Christ paved the way back to God. Only through him can we be transformed back to what God intended for us all along. All other ways, well lead to another end that isn't imagine...
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[Philip]

A better title would have been "Imagine a Nightmare!"

Just because Lennon's drug-addled mind decided to believe in a false reality won't change what his actual reality truly became/what his fate will ultimately be. Lennon's belief in nothing above or below is the common strategy of those who would be mentally shattered if they realized and/or faced up to the fact that their deliberate and entrenched rebellion against God means an eternity of punishment, anguish, separation from God, and loss of all they would inherit if they had not decided to reject God. But they can't handle that fact, so they've lied to themselves for so long and have suppressed what they CAN understand about God, all to the extent that they now truly believe whatever the "reality" is that they have wrongly "imagined." Describing such people as being "deluded" doesn't truly do justice to the word.

[neo-x]

I must say though, for those without God, this is the not only a dream, this is the only hope they have. And its a dream for sure because what human race has so far proven, that they fight, all the time.

By the way, I love amazing Grace, its probably the best spiritual song to me.

[Kurieuo]

The thought that came to me head was: "Where's the meaning that provides such sentiments with substance? What's the point?"

Even, perhaps, give me a gun now... as I don't want to entertain my life in a manner akin to Sisyphus where there is no real meaning.

[neo-x]

The thought that came to me head was: "Where's the meaning that provides such sentiments with substance? What's the point?"

Even, perhaps, give me a gun now... as I don't want to entertain my life in a manner akin to Sisyphus where there is no real meaning.

I think this is something an atheist does not and perhaps could not relate to.

[Kurieuo]

The thought that came to me head was: "Where's the meaning that provides such sentiments with substance? What's the point?"

Even, perhaps, give me a gun now... as I don't want to entertain my life in a manner akin to Sisyphus where there is no real meaning.

I think this is something an atheist does not and perhaps could not relate to.

What do you mean?

It was actually an Atheist philosopher I read who put forward that we should live life as though it has meaning, shaking our fists at "the gods" akin to Sisyphus. This, in his opinion, had an aura of nobility to it. Knowing that what we do in life is frivolous, and yet striving on none the less in the face of life's meaninglessness.

[neo-x]

I know plenty of atheists who have meaning in life, who don't actually think life does not have any meaning. I find this to be a strawman kind of approach, like you cited "give me a gun right now and end it" type. To live a life one doesn't need objective meanings.