WOW. Thanks for explaining 1/137 a tiny bit. I scanned for anything I could understand, and came up with almost 0/137.
Jesus broke laws of physics in feeding the multitude and walking on water, so is a law a law if there is an exception?
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I'll give my oversimplified opinion. The laws of physics pertain to creation. And since God is not part of His creation, then He is not subject to those laws.ChristianScientistAnn wrote:WOW. Thanks for explaining 1/137 a tiny bit. I scanned for anything I could understand, and came up with almost 0/137.
Jesus broke laws of physics in feeding the multitude and walking on water, so is a law a law if there is an exception?
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
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In Christian Science, Jesus isn't God; he's just a guy. Moreover, God isn't a person but a principle of life, love, and whatever else is good. Think of ''The Force'' of StarWars and you'll get the picture.RickD wrote:I'll give my oversimplified opinion. The laws of physics pertain to creation. And since God is not part of His creation, then He is not subject to those laws.ChristianScientistAnn wrote:WOW. Thanks for explaining 1/137 a tiny bit. I scanned for anything I could understand, and came up with almost 0/137.
Jesus broke laws of physics in feeding the multitude and walking on water, so is a law a law if there is an exception?
Oh, yeah...''Christ'' isn't a title but a quality which we may all display.
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RickD, thanks for your thought about laws of physics. Still cogitating.
I forgot to thank neo-x for the welcome in my last post.
FL, no reverent person inside or outside of Christian Science could think of Christ Jesus as "just a guy." The definition of the Hebrew word, Messiah, is "anointed." The definition of the Greek word, Christ, is "anointed." In Christian Science, Jesus was The Christ, the only Christ there will ever be. All Christians strive to be Christ-like.(Humor is very Christ-like, btw.)
I enjoyed the starwars reference to "The Force" very much. lol
Christian Scientists say God is Principle, not "a principle." Principle itself. Like God is Spirit or Love, not just a spirit or a love.
I'll pass for now on the Bacon Marmalade. Ugh. lol
I have got to learn how to use the quote button...
I forgot to thank neo-x for the welcome in my last post.
FL, no reverent person inside or outside of Christian Science could think of Christ Jesus as "just a guy." The definition of the Hebrew word, Messiah, is "anointed." The definition of the Greek word, Christ, is "anointed." In Christian Science, Jesus was The Christ, the only Christ there will ever be. All Christians strive to be Christ-like.(Humor is very Christ-like, btw.)
I enjoyed the starwars reference to "The Force" very much. lol
Christian Scientists say God is Principle, not "a principle." Principle itself. Like God is Spirit or Love, not just a spirit or a love.
I'll pass for now on the Bacon Marmalade. Ugh. lol
I have got to learn how to use the quote button...
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Just copy what you want to quote. Then click on the Quote box, and paste in between the ][.I have got to learn how to use the quote button...
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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1. Click Post a Reply. Scroll below the Post a Reply window and other poster's replies will come into view.ChristianScientistAnn wrote:I have got to learn how to use the quote button...
2. Go to sentence you want to quote and right-click your cursor over the words; they will turn blue,
3. Then click on the Quote button on the top right-hand corner of the poster's box.
4. The sentence will appear on your Post a Reply window.
''Jesus is just a guy'' in the same sense that I am just a guy, President Obama is just a guy and the panhandler with a sign around his neck saying ''Hungry any $ is appreciated'' is just a guy. We are all just human although our situations differ.ChristianScientistAnn wrote:FL, no reverent person inside or outside of Christian Science could think of Christ Jesus as "just a guy." The definition of the Hebrew word, Messiah, is "anointed." The definition of the Greek word, Christ, is "anointed." In Christian Science, Jesus was The Christ, the only Christ there will ever be. All Christians strive to be Christ-like
Yes, you are right. God is Principle - an impersonal Principal - God isn't a Person.ChristianScientistAnn wrote:Christian Scientists say God is Principle, not "a principle." Principle itself. Like God is Spirit or Love, not just a spirit or a love.
My wife's friends don't even want to try it. Bacon marmalade is food for Men. Real Men!ChristianScientistAnn wrote:I'll pass for now on the Bacon Marmalade. Ugh. lol
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RickD wrote: If I came across as bashing, I apologize.
I think you should ask her what she believes instead of posting links to websites, because it seems like an attack if you post stuff that she may or may not agree with.
I am familiar with them, but I would rather find out what she personally believes and not what some website says.That wasn't my intent. 1over137 wasn't familiar with Christian Science, and from your post, it seemed you weren't either.
Fundamentally we do follow the same Christ it's just that my understanding of who exactly he is, is slightly different from who she think he is. I don't agree with your statement, because we both believe in the same Christ it's just she doesn't quite get his divine side.By saying you are fundamentally on the same page with a belief system that doesn't acknowledge that Christ is God, is troubling. How can one trust Christ for salvation if the christ one puts his trust in, isn't the Christ that can save?
I do hope however that Christ's divinity can be revealed to her.
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1Tim1:15-17
Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.Amen.
Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.Amen.
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God created the universe and it laws of Physics. Thus God is not subject to or limited by what He created.
Wow, FL! I usually just copy what I want to quote and paste it inside manually typed quote tags: {quote}what I want to quote{/quote}. Real quote tags use [ and ] instead of { and }. Simpler to describe, though typos do happen.
Wow, FL! I usually just copy what I want to quote and paste it inside manually typed quote tags: {quote}what I want to quote{/quote}. Real quote tags use [ and ] instead of { and }. Simpler to describe, though typos do happen.
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So I'll stand // With arms high and heart abandoned
In awe of the One Who gave it all - The Stand, Hillsong United
"To a world that was lost, He gave all He could give.
To show us the reason to live."
"We Are the Reason" by David Meece
"So why should I worry?
Why should I fret?
'Cause I've got a Mansion Builder
Who ain't through with me yet" - 2nd Chapter of Acts
So I'll stand // With arms high and heart abandoned
In awe of the One Who gave it all - The Stand, Hillsong United
"To a world that was lost, He gave all He could give.
To show us the reason to live."
"We Are the Reason" by David Meece
"So why should I worry?
Why should I fret?
'Cause I've got a Mansion Builder
Who ain't through with me yet" - 2nd Chapter of Acts
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This video expresses my thoughts about Christian Science:Danieltwotwenty wrote:Fundamentally we do follow the same Christ it's just that my understanding of who exactly he is, is slightly different from who she think he is. I don't agree with your statement, because we both believe in the same Christ it's just she doesn't quite get his divine side.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAY8unW3QGg
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Let's do that.I do hope however that Christ's divinity can be revealed to her.
Dan
Ann, would you be willing to participate in a thread we will create where we will discuss this?
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
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The problem you're missing is that Christian Science has no problem with Christ's divinity. Just like many other cults, their problem is with Christ's deity.
Just look at their own website that ChristianScientistAnn said she agrees with. They promote their ideas of Christ's divinity.
Guys, being friendly with new members is great. But let's not do that at the expense of proper doctrine.
Just look at their own website that ChristianScientistAnn said she agrees with. They promote their ideas of Christ's divinity.
Guys, being friendly with new members is great. But let's not do that at the expense of proper doctrine.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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Daniel,Daniel wrote:
Fundamentally we do follow the same Christ it's just that my understanding of who exactly he is, is slightly different from who she think he is. I don't agree with your statement, because we both believe in the same Christ it's just she doesn't quite get his divine side.
Again I ask you if you understand what Christian Science teaches. Because again, by your own words, I don't think you really understand. Look at their website that Ann says she agrees with. There's no problem in Christian Science, with Christ's divinity. It's an unbiblical kind of divinity, but they still believe Christ is divine. Christian Science does not believe in Christ's deity. To them, Christ is not God. He is not the second Person of the Holy Trinity.
So, fundamentally they promote a different Christ. To some, the difference between divinity and deity may seem trivial. But it makes all the difference in the world.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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Ann, are you willing to discuss Christ's deity in some thread?
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
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It will be interesting. And she is welcome to share if she likes.
It would be a blessing if they missed the cairns and got lost on the way back. Or if
the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
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the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
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RickD wrote:Daniel,Daniel wrote:
Fundamentally we do follow the same Christ it's just that my understanding of who exactly he is, is slightly different from who she think he is. I don't agree with your statement, because we both believe in the same Christ it's just she doesn't quite get his divine side.
Again I ask you if you understand what Christian Science teaches. Because again, by your own words, I don't think you really understand. Look at their website that Ann says she agrees with. There's no problem in Christian Science, with Christ's divinity. It's an unbiblical kind of divinity, but they still believe Christ is divine. Christian Science does not believe in Christ's deity. To them, Christ is not God. He is not the second Person of the Holy Trinity.
So, fundamentally they promote a different Christ. To some, the difference between divinity and deity may seem trivial. But it makes all the difference in the world.
I don't know why you keep saying he is a different Christ, it is the same Christ but her knowledge of who exactly he is is not fully complete.
1Tim1:15-17
Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.Amen.
Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.Amen.