Jac3510
I did show you why it was wrong. I also pointed out the Hebrew and Greek words and defined them for you.
Ken
You said “Pistis” and “Aman” is defined as belief that includes empirical evidence. And you claimed these are the Hebrew and Greek versions of Faith. You didn’t provide any sources; I guess I was supposed to take your word for it. I responded why I disagree that faith should not include empirical evidence; and dictionary.com confirms my definition of the word.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/faith?s=t
Now if you want to make the argument that the Hebrew and Greek words are as you described them, maybe the word “faith” shouldn’t be used! Maybe another word should be used that includes empirical evidence; because let’s face it; when the bible was written, the English language didn’t even exist! Thus the word “faith” didn’t exist.
Jac3510
In all sincerity, Kenny, how many times and in how many ways should I point out where you are mistaken? Two times? Three? Seven? Eighteen? Why is the once not enough?
Ken
You only replied once; and I stated my disagreement with your reply! To which you started to become belligerent
Jac3510
You want to talk about me being rude? Do you not see the breathtaking arrogance you display (actually, it would only be breathtaking if I had not seen it many times before)? Coming here and proceeding to act as if you know something about the subject matter that we don't know?
Ken
Oh so because I have the audacity to disagree with you, all of a sudden I am being rude? And who is this “we” business? My objection is with YOU! I’ve discussed with plenty of people on this site and even though we don’t always agree, they know how to behave. But with you, for some reason you seem to get a little bent outta shape!
Jac3510
Thinking that you can come here and propose arguments that the greatest minds the world has ever known for well over two-thousand years haven't already thought of and rebutted countless times?
Ken
Are you kidding me??? I am not proposing arguments with the greatest minds the world has ever known, I’m proposing my arguments with YOU!! However judging from the arrogance you’ve displayed, it shouldn’t surprise me that you would be delusional enough to consider yourself in such company.
Jac3510
FL has already pointed you to atheists on this board who are respected, after whom you ought to model yourself. It isn't your atheism I find laughable. It's your manner.
Ken
Now why on earth would I attempt to model myself after someone else I don’t know; I may not ever agree with? Of anything I should list some of the Christians on this site that YOU should model YOURSELF after.
Jac3510
It is, as I told you before, the quality of your responses and you deep naivete and total lack of self-awareness, and worse than all of that, your total disinterest in having a real conversation.
Ken
You can call my responses lacking quality, naive, lacking awareness, or whatever you want; but it means nothing unless you explain WHY my responses has those qualities; something you have yet to do. That is why your responses are insulting rather than constructive criticisms.
Jac3510
Your presumptuousness--that you merely assume that because you created a screen name and posted a few questions that somehow you are entitled to any degree of deference--is absurd. If you want to be respected, then act respectably.
Ken
This is a public forum. Anyone can come here and post their opinions and that is what I did. Now if you have a problem with people who might post an opinion that is different than yours, maybe you should leave this forum and go find yourself a choir to preach to because not everybody is gonna march in “lockstep” to your point of view!
Jac3510
One thing of many that I have learned in some two decades of this type of work is that, when you answer someone's question and they ask it again insisting that you haven't answered it, then you are dealing with a person who isn't interested in answers at all. You are dealing with a person who would rather preach, and the only "answer" they find acceptable is the one they want to hear.
Ken
One thing I’ve learned is when a person would rather rant and rave instead of articulating a rebuttal against a person who has a different point of view than his own; (something you’ve neglected to do) this is a person who is only interested in hearing his point of view. Again; maybe you should go find yourself a choir to preach to.
Jac3510
My hope for you, Kenny, is that you will put yourself in our shoes,
Ken
Our shoes? There you go speaking plural again; my objection is not with anyone else, it is with you; the fact that you are rude, neglect to reply, but pretend as if you did.
All I ask is if you disagree with me, explain why! If you think my replies are stupid, Fine! But explain WHY they are stupid. I will be the first to admit, I don’t know everything, I am here to learn like anyone else but you need to realize that you don’t know everything either! In spite of what you might believe, you are not one of the greatest minds the world has ever known! Even YOU can learn something as well. Now would you like to quote insulting each other, shake hands and behave in a civil maner? If we can manage that we both might learn something. I am cool with that; how about you???
Ken
Ken