Alleged papyrus on Jesus having a wife
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Alleged papyrus on Jesus having a wife
Hey everyone, for the past couple of days, this has been a big topic on facebook, and I was curious as to what you all think. Here is the article that it all stems from.
http://mashable.com/2014/04/10/gospel-j ... -main-link
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It was debunked last year I think.
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the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
without.
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Correct Neoneo-x wrote:It was debunked last year I think.
And on top of that its a gnostic writing which automatically puts its historicity as late and very poor compared to the gospel accounts.
Another sensationalist news piece to hype up the pseudo skeptics for a fe weeks before they come back down to earth .
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Re: Alleged papyrus on Jesus having a wife
As I have stated before, IF Jesus had a wife it would NOT have been viewed as a big deal and there would have been no reason to hide that fact.
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Oy! Jesus lived in and the Gospels were written in the First Century. Further, the Gospels were written in Greek - not Coptic - because that was the universal language understood throughout the Roman Empire. For the sake of historical perspective, Mohamed lived in the 7th Century, so the Qur'an may be older than this papyrus fragment; IOW, it has slightly more credibility than a Dan Brown novel.A papyrus fragment that mentions Jesus's wife is likely ancient, probably dating between the sixth and ninth century, latest research shows.
When Karen L. King, the Hollis Professor of Divinity at Harvard Divinity School, announced the fragment's existence in September 2012, there was a widespread debate over its authenticity. The fragment, known as the "Gospel of Jesus’s Wife," probably originated from Egypt. It's written in Coptic and contains the phrase "Jesus said to them, 'my wife...,'" never before seen in any ancient text. It also mentions Jesus's mother and a female disciple, who may be identified as "Mary."
It's an archaeological curiosity whose significance is how weird some corners of the church had gotten 5-8 centuries after Jesus lived and the books of the New Testament were written. Not that reality will in any way affect people's "itching ears".
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In awe of the One Who gave it all - The Stand, Hillsong United
"To a world that was lost, He gave all He could give.
To show us the reason to live."
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Who ain't through with me yet" - 2nd Chapter of Acts
Re: Alleged papyrus on Jesus having a wife
Even if it were not a forgery, the earliest they are dating it is to 7th century. Yeah, a very reliable, contemporaneous gospel.neo-x wrote:It was debunked last year I think.
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Besides, we do know Christ has a wife...the church.
It would be a blessing if they missed the cairns and got lost on the way back. Or if
the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
without.
//johnadavid.wordpress.com
the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
without.
//johnadavid.wordpress.com
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It's hillarious how desperate the pseudo skeptic anti historian conspiracy theorists want to try to debunk Christianity.PeteSinCA wrote:Oy! Jesus lived in and the Gospels were written in the First Century. Further, the Gospels were written in Greek - not Coptic - because that was the universal language understood throughout the Roman Empire. For the sake of historical perspective, Mohamed lived in the 7th Century, so the Qur'an may be older than this papyrus fragment; IOW, it has slightly more credibility than a Dan Brown novel.A papyrus fragment that mentions Jesus's wife is likely ancient, probably dating between the sixth and ninth century, latest research shows.
When Karen L. King, the Hollis Professor of Divinity at Harvard Divinity School, announced the fragment's existence in September 2012, there was a widespread debate over its authenticity. The fragment, known as the "Gospel of Jesus’s Wife," probably originated from Egypt. It's written in Coptic and contains the phrase "Jesus said to them, 'my wife...,'" never before seen in any ancient text. It also mentions Jesus's mother and a female disciple, who may be identified as "Mary."
It's an archaeological curiosity whose significance is how weird some corners of the church had gotten 5-8 centuries after Jesus lived and the books of the New Testament were written. Not that reality will in any way affect people's "itching ears".
Why are they fighting so hard against the truth???
Foolish is the only word that comes to mind here.
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Because they want to prove to themselves there is no hell?
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Re: Alleged papyrus on Jesus having a wife
For the last time, Jesus DID/ DOES have a wife.
It's The Church dadblame it!!!
It's The Church dadblame it!!!
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They are going to be in for a rude awakening lol1over137 wrote:Because they want to prove to themselves there is no hell?
I hope that they like their steaks extra well cooked with a dash of sulfur
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jlay wrote:For the last time, Jesus DID/ DOES have a wife.
It's The Church dadblame it!!!
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Technically, isn't the Church Christ's betrothed? Not yet married?jlay wrote:For the last time, Jesus DID/ DOES have a wife.
It's The Church dadblame it!!!
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What is marriage anyways?RickD wrote:Technically, isn't the Church Christ's betrothed? Not yet married?jlay wrote:For the last time, Jesus DID/ DOES have a wife.
It's The Church dadblame it!!!
Just kidding
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I second that notion bipmeister!