Please pray for Israel and the families who lost their loved ones..
They were actually dead many days ago...
"Security forces find bodies outside Hebron in Beit Kahil region on 18th day of search; Shin Bet believes boys were killed shortly after abduction. After more than two weeks of agonizing, intensive searches in the West Bank, the military operation launched to locate teenagers Gil-Ad Shaer, Naftali Fraenkel, and Eyal Yifrah reached a tragic end Monday afternoon when security forces discovered their bodies buried in a field northwest of Hebron, no more than a 10-15-minute drive from where they were abducted."
The heart cannot rejoice in what the mind rejects as false - Galileo
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Georg Friedrich Wilhelm Hegel
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. -Philippians 4:8
Such sad loss of life. Had there been no strife, these precious people would still be alive...and you accused me of "showing my true colors", it is this exactly, such spilling of blood is what I am against, whether that be Palestinian teenagers or Israeli.
It would be a blessing if they missed the cairns and got lost on the way back. Or if
the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
without.
neo-x wrote:Such sad loss of life. Had there been no strife, these precious people would still be alive...and you accused me of "showing my true colors",
Yes you are showing your true colors again if you say "if there had been no strife" from Israel. Again you have no grounds to make such an accusation..
The heart cannot rejoice in what the mind rejects as false - Galileo
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Georg Friedrich Wilhelm Hegel
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. -Philippians 4:8
neo-x wrote:Such sad loss of life. Had there been no strife, these precious people would still be alive...and you accused me of "showing my true colors",
Yes you are showing your true colors again if you say "if there had been no strife" from Israel. Again you have no grounds to make such an accusation..
Gman, I think you are reading more into neo's post than he intended. No strife is good. Period.
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
What exactly does this mean Gman, "my true colors"?
It would be a blessing if they missed the cairns and got lost on the way back. Or if
the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
without.
1over137 wrote:
Gman, I think you are reading more into neo's post than he intended. No strife is good. Period.
I completely disagree.. If our strife is against evil, then who is to say that is wrong? The Bible also commands us to hate what is evil..
Romans 12:9 Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.
Also we serve a G-d of wrath..
Romans 1:18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness,
The heart cannot rejoice in what the mind rejects as false - Galileo
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Georg Friedrich Wilhelm Hegel
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. -Philippians 4:8
neo-x wrote:What exactly does this mean Gman, "my true colors"?
Are you reading what you write?
The heart cannot rejoice in what the mind rejects as false - Galileo
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Georg Friedrich Wilhelm Hegel
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. -Philippians 4:8
1over137 wrote:
Gman, I think you are reading more into neo's post than he intended. No strife is good. Period.
I completely disagree.. If our strife is against evil, then who is to say that is wrong? The Bible also commands us to hate what is evil..
Romans 12:9 Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.
Also we serve a G-d of wrath..
Romans 1:18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness,
Ok, strife against evil.
God is the ultimate judge.
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
neo-x wrote:What exactly does this mean Gman, "my true colors"?
Are you reading what you write?
You are accusing me of God knows what, so I want you to put it into exact words. Except that it means something really bad, I am not sure what you are talking about.
It would be a blessing if they missed the cairns and got lost on the way back. Or if
the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
without.
Yes. God is the ultimate Judge, but we are still expected to judge ourselves in the right spirit. We however should not condemn anyone.
The heart cannot rejoice in what the mind rejects as false - Galileo
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Georg Friedrich Wilhelm Hegel
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. -Philippians 4:8
neo-x wrote:
You are accusing me of God knows what, so I want you to put it into exact words. Except that it means something really bad, I am not sure what you are talking about.
Read what you wrote here that no land is eternal, any more than any man is..
The Bible clearly states that God gave land grants and the title to Israel through Jacob that have never been revoked (Genesis 15:18-21; 17:7-8; 18; 28:13-15, 1 Chronicles 16:15-18, Psalm 105:9-11, Jeremiah 31:35-37). Israel will also always be in the pupil of G-d’s eye (Deuteronomy 11:12; 32:9-10; Zech 2:8).
The heart cannot rejoice in what the mind rejects as false - Galileo
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Georg Friedrich Wilhelm Hegel
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. -Philippians 4:8
neo-x wrote:
You are accusing me of God knows what, so I want you to put it into exact words. Except that it means something really bad, I am not sure what you are talking about.
Read what you wrote here that no land is eternal, any more than any man is..
The Bible clearly states that God gave land grants and the title to Israel through Jacob that have never been revoked (Genesis 15:18-21; 17:7-8; 18; 28:13-15, 1 Chronicles 16:15-18, Psalm 105:9-11, Jeremiah 31:35-37). Israel will also always be in the pupil of G-d’s eye (Deuteronomy 11:12; 32:9-10; Zech 2:8).
And how does this translate to "your true colors" I know what I wrote, I don't know what you have in mind. It look like you are hesitating in spelling it out. Please be clear and write what you mean, what are these colors you talk about, what do they represent?
It would be a blessing if they missed the cairns and got lost on the way back. Or if
the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
without.
neo-x wrote:
And how does this translate to "your true colors" I know what I wrote, I don't know what you have in mind. It look like you are hesitating in spelling it out. Please be clear and write what you mean, what are these colors you talk about, what do they represent?
Maybe you could explain it.. Are you reading what I said before? I stated.. "Yes you are showing your true colors again IF you say "if there had been no strife" from Israel." I said "IF" you say that these boys died on the account of Israel, then yes, you are showing your true colors, IF you are saying that Israel killed these boys and not the terrorists. So which is it??
Also when I posted this I had no intentions of making this into a debate neo.. I just wanted this to be a prayer for those kids.. Maybe you are taking this too personally.
The heart cannot rejoice in what the mind rejects as false - Galileo
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Georg Friedrich Wilhelm Hegel
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. -Philippians 4:8
neo-x wrote:
And how does this translate to "your true colors" I know what I wrote, I don't know what you have in mind. It look like you are hesitating in spelling it out. Please be clear and write what you mean, what are these colors you talk about, what do they represent?
Maybe you could explain it.. Are you reading what I said before? I stated.. "Yes you are showing your true colors again IF you say "if there had been no strife" from Israel." I said "IF" you say that these boys died on the account of Israel, then yes, you are showing your true colors, IF you are saying that Israel killed these boys and not the terrorists. So which is it??
Also when I posted this I had no intentions of making this into a debate neo.. I just wanted this to be a prayer for those kids.. Maybe you are taking this too personally.
I am as much saddened by their deaths as you are. So please don't assume otherwise.
And you did put out an insult Gman, how do you expect me to react? I am only asking you to clarify what do call someone who shows his "true colors"? What motivations does a person like me has which has raised red flags to you enough that you accuse me of being someone I am not?
Let me make it easy for you, for example, are you calling me antisemitic?
It would be a blessing if they missed the cairns and got lost on the way back. Or if
the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
without.