It doesn't, if you remember you brought up the Nazi's and I repliedAugust wrote:How does that relate to either ID or evolution, which you brought up, since neither was around at that time?Yes, but Christian beleifs were behind the Spanish Inquisition.
We can also debate the meaning of Christian
You were the one that brought up relative morality, and I used the Nazis to demonstrate that your thinking was fallacious. And answered your question that the ToE played a role in Nazi thinking.It doesn't, if you remember you brought up the Nazi's and I replied
"Will arguing about ID over evolution prevent a new Nazi regime?"
Good =)August wrote:You were the one that brought up relative morality, and I used the Nazis to demonstrate that your thinking was fallacious. And answered your question that the ToE played a role in Nazi thinking.It doesn't, if you remember you brought up the Nazi's and I replied
"Will arguing about ID over evolution prevent a new Nazi regime?"
Let's assume that you are, by what standard do you judge something to be good or evil? Clearly it's a problem when it's left up to the person or persons themselves.Meaning vilifying a position because some people misinterpret it and use it for evil doen not make it invalid.
Am I correct?
You are not indicating that all Nazi's were scientists?August wrote:Let's assume that you are, by what standard do you judge something to be good or evil? Clearly it's a problem when it's left up to the person or persons themselves.Meaning vilifying a position because some people misinterpret it and use it for evil doen not make it invalid.
Am I correct?
Torture and execution during the SI was done by secular authorities, not the Catholic church, btw. They were responsible for the announcement of what heresies were being committed, and offered an amnesty to those who held the Cathar beliefs. The whole inquisition killed less than 2000 people, all regrettable but self-corrected by the church, unlike the Nazi's.
Not at all, but their policies were influenced by the belief that to make their race stronger, they had to remove the weaker parts.You are not indicating that all Nazi's were scientists?
Yes. And while I agree with the premise, I don't think it's the whole premise. We are able to distinguish between good and bad because God created that ability in us.All this was a response to me saying.
"Look into your own heart and perhaps you will see what is right and what is wrong?"
No, there are many factors.Again, you cannot think by teaching ID in schools that it would prevent a neo-Nazi regime?
Agreed.I think that morality should be taught to our children in our homes, and taught to the masses by leaders.
Back to square one. ID has nothing to do with Christianity. That is the propaganda that evolutionists would have you believe though. Please show me where it relates to Christianity.Introducing ID and any christian derivitaves in schools opens the way for other religions to become offended and want inclusion.
Right, but it shows alternatives to the ToEIt does in no way teach morality.
We should not.And if it does why are we teaching morality in a class which is supposed to teach science?
My original post was in response to a poster who stated that the Bible is the source of truth and that in it can be seen the falacies of natural evolution.August wrote:Back to square one. ID has nothing to do with Christianity. That is the propaganda that evolutionists would have you believe though. Please show me where it relates to Christianity.Introducing ID and any christian derivitaves in schools opens the way for other religions to become offended and want inclusion.
If you read what I wrote earlier, you would have seen I said that alternative scientific options in the time preceding WWII, may have stopped Nazism. Or it may not have. It was one of many factors that those leaders used to justify their policies.
No, in my worldview the designer is the Christian God. That is not what ID theory states though. If it suits you, in your worldview, the ID'er can be a pink unicorn.My original post was in response to a poster who stated that the Bible is the source of truth and that in it can be seen the falacies of natural evolution.
You share a different view? The intelligent designer could be anyone?
I'm sorry what questions have I not answered?August wrote:No, in my worldview the designer is the Christian God. That is not what ID theory states though. If it suits you, in your worldview, the ID'er can be a pink unicorn.My original post was in response to a poster who stated that the Bible is the source of truth and that in it can be seen the falacies of natural evolution.
You share a different view? The intelligent designer could be anyone?
We have now reached the point where I have repeatedly answered your questions, yet you refuse to answer mine. You keep on asking the same questions I believe I have already answered.
I would like to continue the discussion, but if you you don't answer my questions, then I see no point.
I'm sorry what questions have I not answered?
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it is true that love binds us all.
How do you know that?
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Just do your best to do the right thing
What is the "right thing", and how do you know what it is?
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We are only here but for a moment, and you will be judged by one who has the right to judge.
How do you know that?
Those questions.....by what standard do you judge something to be good or evil?
I am glad we could have this discussion.BTW, thanks for a civil debate, it's kinda hard to have these discussions without them deteriorating into namecalling etc. I appreciate the tone of our discourse.
I cannot explain how I know, it is what I beleive.Quote:
it is true that love binds us all.
How do you know that?
