The angel of god
The angel of god
I know Jesus was not the arch angel Micheal.
My question was the Angel of God Jesus ?
Please offer proof for and against according to scripure.
My question was the Angel of God Jesus ?
Please offer proof for and against according to scripure.
Church tradition tells us that when John, son of Zebadee and brother of James was an old man, his disciples would carry him to church in their arms.
He would simply say, “Little children, love one another”
After a time his disciples wearied at always hearing these same words and asked “Master why do you always say this?
He replied, “it is the Lords command, and if done, it is enough”
He would simply say, “Little children, love one another”
After a time his disciples wearied at always hearing these same words and asked “Master why do you always say this?
He replied, “it is the Lords command, and if done, it is enough”
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Re: The angel of god
To prove the question is to prove your denial. Circular.Deborah wrote:I know Jesus was not the arch angel Micheal.
My question was the Angel of God Jesus ?
Please offer proof for and against according to scripure.
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Re: The angel of god
and that means what?BavarianWheels wrote:To prove the question is to prove your denial. Circular.Deborah wrote:I know Jesus was not the arch angel Micheal.
My question was the Angel of God Jesus ?
Please offer proof for and against according to scripure.
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.
I already have scripture for, so help would have been helpfull not silly comments I do not understand
Church tradition tells us that when John, son of Zebadee and brother of James was an old man, his disciples would carry him to church in their arms.
He would simply say, “Little children, love one another”
After a time his disciples wearied at always hearing these same words and asked “Master why do you always say this?
He replied, “it is the Lords command, and if done, it is enough”
He would simply say, “Little children, love one another”
After a time his disciples wearied at always hearing these same words and asked “Master why do you always say this?
He replied, “it is the Lords command, and if done, it is enough”
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"Angel" can simply mean "messenger" in Hebrew. I think it plausible that the Angel of the Lord is Christ. Some things to note is that Jacob fought wrestled with a man who was identified as God (Genesis 32:24-30), but later on in Hosea we find out this man was an angel (or messenger):
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- 4 He struggled with the angel and overcame him;
he wept and begged for his favor.
He found him at Bethel
and talked with him there-
5 the LORD God Almighty,
the LORD is his name of renown!
- "See, I will send my messenger, who will prepare the way before me. Then suddenly the Lord you are seeking will come to his temple; the messenger of the covenant, whom you desire, will come," says the LORD Almighty."
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"Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved." (Romans 10:13)
I found this passage
Firstly if this is only an angel or even a Arc Angel then how does he have the power not to forgive?
Exodus 23:20-22
20 "See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21 Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him. 22 If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you.
Firstly if this is only an angel or even a Arc Angel then how does he have the power not to forgive?
Church tradition tells us that when John, son of Zebadee and brother of James was an old man, his disciples would carry him to church in their arms.
He would simply say, “Little children, love one another”
After a time his disciples wearied at always hearing these same words and asked “Master why do you always say this?
He replied, “it is the Lords command, and if done, it is enough”
He would simply say, “Little children, love one another”
After a time his disciples wearied at always hearing these same words and asked “Master why do you always say this?
He replied, “it is the Lords command, and if done, it is enough”
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Re: The angel of god
I thought it was pretty plain. Sorry to offend you with such an short answer out of your realm of understanding.Deborah wrote:and that means what?BavarianWheels wrote:To prove the question is to prove your denial. Circular.Deborah wrote:I know Jesus was not the arch angel Micheal.
My question was the Angel of God Jesus ?
Please offer proof for and against according to scripure.
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I already have scripture for, so help would have been helpfull not silly comments I do not understand
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I'm not sure I understand. Don't we all have the power to forgive or not forgive?Deborah wrote:I found this passage
Firstly if this is only an angel or even a Arc Angel then how does he have the power not to forgive?Exodus 23:20-22
20 "See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21 Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him. 22 If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you.
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"Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved." (Romans 10:13)
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Sure...sins committed against us specifically...Kurieuo wrote:I'm not sure I understand. Don't we all have the power to forgive or not forgive?Deborah wrote:I found this passage
Firstly if this is only an angel or even a Arc Angel then how does he have the power not to forgive?Exodus 23:20-22
20 "See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21 Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him. 22 If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you.
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