Theistic Evolution

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Is it wrong that I believe this? Have I sinned for believing this ?
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Some might say you have but I don't think it's a sin to be a te. So cheers.
It would be a blessing if they missed the cairns and got lost on the way back. Or if
the Thing on the ice got them tonight.

I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
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UsagiTsukino wrote:Is it wrong that I believe this? Have I sinned for believing this ?
Hi Usagi,

Personally, I think the subject of creation beliefs is a matter of conscience for a believer. If as a believer, you have studied the subject, and studied scripture, and you are fine in your own conscience that you have no problem with TE, then it's fine for you.
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RickD wrote:
UsagiTsukino wrote:Is it wrong that I believe this? Have I sinned for believing this ?
Hi Usagi,

Personally, I think the subject of creation beliefs is a matter of conscience for a believer. If as a believer, you have studied the subject, and studied scripture, and you are fine in your own conscience that you have no problem with TE, then it's fine for you.
what happened to the clowns Rick?
It would be a blessing if they missed the cairns and got lost on the way back. Or if
the Thing on the ice got them tonight.

I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
without.


//johnadavid.wordpress.com
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neo-x wrote:
RickD wrote:
UsagiTsukino wrote:Is it wrong that I believe this? Have I sinned for believing this ?
Hi Usagi,

Personally, I think the subject of creation beliefs is a matter of conscience for a believer. If as a believer, you have studied the subject, and studied scripture, and you are fine in your own conscience that you have no problem with TE, then it's fine for you.
what happened to the clowns Rick?
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Yeah guys, the klown pic came down because the klown is in time out. I caught him wearing a Seattle Seahawks hat in the house. :shakehead:

He's not really a Seahawks fan. He was just being rebellious. The younger klown generation just doesn't get it.
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There is nothing wrong with being a TE and if people look down on you or judge you because of it then it is them that have committed a crime against God and not you. If you love God and others as yourself, then these issues are non issues. y@};-
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Thanks guys. Many think I was crazy. Many have dislike many of my views. For many there is only one denomination. For me what matters is to things

1. Jesus being accepted has your lord and savior

2. You believe in God

3. The bible is the word of God.

I try my best to love people for God has loved us. I love all my friends. I don't care if they are catholic or atheist. For me the best way to send God's message is to love them has God loves them and pray for them.
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I do not accept theistic evolution mainly because of a lack of evidence from science that can prove,show or demonstrate life evolves however you've never seen me insult a theistic evolutionist like they do me for believing the gap theory.

They get offended by anyone who explains why they reject theistic evolution,they take it personal like I'm judgingbthem just because I see it differently and I have given them on here a chance to give me evidencevwhybI should accept it and they just direct me to evidence I've already gone over before.I think they don't believe I have so they underestimate my knowledge about the scientific evidence life evolves.

Once understood I see way more evidence for the gap theory but I don't look at the evidence from an evolution perspective like they do and must to be a theistic evolutionist.I respectfully disagree and do not doubt any bodies salvation but I know that I have been wrong before and have had to change my perspective and I was saved.
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Not only does ACB play the victim he also is trying to deceive, he has said that we are deceived, we don't believe God's word, we believe the words of men and we stretch God's word to mean what we want it too. We are to test every spirit and ACB is here with a spirit of divisiveness, be careful and read his words through all threads and you will see what I mean.
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All words are words of God. God is the creator of all things including all our words.

What is more important? Cheerleading Jesus as your Lord and Savior of living your life according to his teachings?

Most people treat their religion like their favorite NFL football team. If you are truly a person with devout spiritual piety you show others the value of your beliefs by your example. The lack of humility about one's religion is stunning. God and Jesus are not an NFL football team. Jesus has too many fans and not enough players on the field helping people in poverty get on with their lives with just a little less misery.

Poverty in this country has doubled in the last five years from 30 million to 60 million. Taxes and government can't be too bad because every year the rich get richer and the poor become larger in numbers. I just find it stunning that the so called Christians in this country have so much ego about their religion. How can anyone argue that we have too much equality in this country at this point is just stunning to witness. Do you honestly think in your heart of hearts Jesus would cuts taxes on the rich and cut government spending for the poor and needy. If all it means to be a Christian is to proudly tote a gun, praise God and the American flag, and get teary eye over words like "Freedom" and "Democracy", then maybe I don't want to be a Christian. How anyone can claim to be a Christian and not be a pacifist is beyond me. WAR, WAR, WAR, and Jesus. Those words just don't seem to go together in my mind.

To be a Christian to me means to being anti-war and a social liberal helping workers live a better life. Tell me we have too much equality in this country and keep a straight face. Being a Christian today is laughable.
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dfnj wrote:All words are words of God. God is the creator of all things including all our words.

What is more important? Cheerleading Jesus as your Lord and Savior of living your life according to his teachings?

Most people treat their religion like their favorite NFL football team. If you are truly a person with devout spiritual piety you show others the value of your beliefs by your example. The lack of humility about one's religion is stunning. God and Jesus are not an NFL football team. Jesus has too many fans and not enough players on the field helping people in poverty get on with their lives with just a little less misery.

Poverty in this country has doubled in the last five years from 30 million to 60 million. Taxes and government can't be too bad because every year the rich get richer and the poor become larger in numbers. I just find it stunning that the so called Christians in this country have so much ego about their religion. How can anyone argue that we have too much equality in this country at this point is just stunning to witness. Do you honestly think in your heart of hearts Jesus would cuts taxes on the rich and cut government spending for the poor and needy. If all it means to be a Christian is to proudly tote a gun, praise God and the American flag, and get teary eye over words like "Freedom" and "Democracy", then maybe I don't want to be a Christian. How anyone can claim to be a Christian and not be a pacifist is beyond me. WAR, WAR, WAR, and Jesus. Those words just don't seem to go together in my mind.

To be a Christian to me means to being anti-war and a social liberal helping workers live a better life. Tell me we have too much equality in this country and keep a straight face. Being a Christian today is laughable.
dfnj,

Mind explaining how this post has anything to do with the topic?
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24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.


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-Edward R Murrow




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UsagiTsukino wrote:Thanks guys. Many think I was crazy. Many have dislike many of my views. For many there is only one denomination. For me what matters is to things

1. Jesus being accepted has your lord and savior

2. You believe in God

3. The bible is the word of God.

I try my best to love people for God has loved us. I love all my friends. I don't care if they are catholic or atheist. For me the best way to send God's message is to love them has God loves them and pray for them.
I agree with this, but I do have one thought and I would love to read your thoughts. Do you believe adam from Genesis was a literal person?

If not, why not? Also, are you aware that Paul referenced him I believe in the book of Romans?

Anyhow, again, I'm merely asking not to make you feel guilty or take issue with your beliefs, but to merely know what you are thinking here to understand you better.

Shalom,
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