Byblos wrote:Audie wrote:Byblos wrote:Audie wrote:The effort to make ToE something that does have to do with the existence God seem to be entirely or nearly so, from your "side".
This topic doesn't interest me in the least but I thought I'd comment on your post above Audie. That is simply not true. One of the most famous quotes from Richard Dawkins, the champion of militant atheism, is that after Darwin's theory of natural selection and common descent it is now possible for an atheist to be intellectually fulfilled (me, paraphrasing).
Clearly he thinks the ToE did away with the notion of God. Deny it all you want, that is precisely (albeit perhaps covertly) what most atheists think.[/quote]
You dont take "Dawkins" word for anything else, why do you take it for that?
Since he is considered by many to be the champion of the cause I take his statement as symptomatic.
Audie wrote:YOU do not, btw, know what "most" atheists think. Or why. Suggesting as you did, however covertly, that most atheists are dimwits is kinda uncool.
You don't like it at all when someone attributes to you or assumes things you did not say so please refrain from doing that yourself. N
owhere did I say or even imply that most atheists are dimwits.
Audie wrote:Most Chinese..subjective impression.. wouldnt waste a minute on such silliness as this proof / disproof of god thro science stuff. Physics disproves god! Biology and geology disproves god! Nah, Total nonsense, non topic.
No argument there. Again, where did I even imply such?
Audie wrote:As to whether or not someone feels "fulfilled", what ever-the-h. that means, it still has zero to do with ToE has anything to do with the existence of God. Nor does how you feel about it.
Clearly that's not what Dawkins and his brand of atheism think. If you disagree with him your issue is with him.
Dawkins does not speak for me. He represents
antitheists, if he represents anyone other than himself. You do NOT know what "most" atheists think. You cant go from what he says to a conclusion about what most atheists or even a substantial percent think.
If you can run that narrow thread from D to what "most" think, I can sure run the wide highway from what you about what atheists believe to implying they are dimwits.
The line in bold, here repeated..
Clearly he thinks the ToE did away with the notion of God. Deny it all you want, that is precisely (albeit perhaps covertly) what most atheists think.
Lets try an either / or. You either think its a valid conclusion, that ToE does do away with god, or you think it does not.
Now, if it does not, do you think its a valid conclusion anyway or a dimwit one?
If its a dimwit conclusion, what have you just said, however covertly, about most atheists?