You having something to contribute would be a miracle, or just a big change?Byblos wrote:A river that splits off and evolves into a wine tributary, now that would be something.Audie wrote:In what fundamental way is the behaviour of a river, with its elements of random chance and obedience to natural law different from how evolution works?[/i]
Evidence for theistic evolution
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Nah, the subject matter bores me to tears.Audie wrote:You having something to contribute would be a miracle, or just a big change?Byblos wrote:A river that splits off and evolves into a wine tributary, now that would be something.Audie wrote:In what fundamental way is the behaviour of a river, with its elements of random chance and obedience to natural law different from how evolution works?[/i]
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That is irrelevent to me because without scientific evidence life evolves there is no reason to look at the evidence from an evolution perspective.I can use the same evidence you use and explain what it really proves and point out it is the kind of evidence you would expect to find if you were looking for evidence that a former world full of life perished long before this world was created. There is no reason to look at it from an evolution perspective without evidence that demonstrates life evolves like scientists say happens.I can post a link to a scientific paper of a scientists explaining how dinosaurs evolved into birds,then say give us scientific evidence that demonstrates that can happen and they won't be able to because it is a faith statement being pushed as truth on society.Audie wrote:Kurieuo wrote:Well, I don't really disagree with you.abelcainsbrother wrote:Yeah but I'm looking at pretty much the same evidence evolutionists use but I'm just trying to explain what it really proves.Kurieuo wrote:Lots of stories make sense to different people.
Keep in mind that sometimes fallen trees are too big of an obstacle to remove from the path so best to navigate around them if possible.
"Same evidence, different interpretation" (SEDI) is about the moldiest / lamest excuse that any creationist can come up with.
They may well have access, in some sense, to the same evidence. Doesnt mean they have looked at much of it, or have the capacity to understand it.
The janitor has "access' to the same info that the brain surgeon has. He may have even seen a youtube, or attempted to read a professional journal, with his 8th grade reading level.
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Boredom often goes with knowing nothing, Im bored by any sports game.Byblos wrote:Nah, the subject matter bores me to tears.Audie wrote:You having something to contribute would be a miracle, or just a big change?Byblos wrote:A river that splits off and evolves into a wine tributary, now that would be something.Audie wrote:In what fundamental way is the behaviour of a river, with its elements of random chance and obedience to natural law different from how evolution works?[/i]
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Go ahead and try it! Let's see what happens.abelcainsbrother wrote:.I can post a link to a scientific paper of a scientists explaining how dinosaurs evolved into birds,then say give us scientific evidence that demonstrates that can happen and they won't be able to because it is a faith statement being pushed as truth on society.
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"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence".
Re: Evidence for theistic evolution
Is that your Eastern philosophy oozing out? No wonder you abhor the topic.Audie wrote:Boredom often goes with knowing nothing, Im bored by any sports game.Byblos wrote:Nah, the subject matter bores me to tears.Audie wrote:You having something to contribute would be a miracle, or just a big change?Byblos wrote:A river that splits off and evolves into a wine tributary, now that would be something.Audie wrote:In what fundamental way is the behaviour of a river, with its elements of random chance and obedience to natural law different from how evolution works?[/i]
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For those whose thinking is all faith-based, everything looks like a nail.Kenny wrote:Go ahead and try it! Let's see what happens.abelcainsbrother wrote:.I can post a link to a scientific paper of a scientists explaining how dinosaurs evolved into birds,then say give us scientific evidence that demonstrates that can happen and they won't be able to because it is a faith statement being pushed as truth on society.
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Re: Evidence for theistic evolution
You're making those statements quite frequently.Audie wrote:For those whose thinking is all faith-based, everything looks like a nail.Kenny wrote:Go ahead and try it! Let's see what happens.abelcainsbrother wrote:.I can post a link to a scientific paper of a scientists explaining how dinosaurs evolved into birds,then say give us scientific evidence that demonstrates that can happen and they won't be able to because it is a faith statement being pushed as truth on society.
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*Kurieuo wonders whether we all look like nails to Audie*
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If ACB will be finding scientific papers, I wonder if he could also find some explaining consciousness in physical reductionist terms?Kenny wrote:Go ahead and try it! Let's see what happens.abelcainsbrother wrote:.I can post a link to a scientific paper of a scientists explaining how dinosaurs evolved into birds,then say give us scientific evidence that demonstrates that can happen and they won't be able to because it is a faith statement being pushed as truth on society.
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Do you think abe's comment there makes good sense and is reflective of how things really are in the world scientific community, or are just his opinions stated as factKurieuo wrote:You're making those statements quite frequently.Audie wrote:For those whose thinking is all faith-based, everything looks like a nail.Kenny wrote:Go ahead and try it! Let's see what happens.abelcainsbrother wrote:.I can post a link to a scientific paper of a scientists explaining how dinosaurs evolved into birds,then say give us scientific evidence that demonstrates that can happen and they won't be able to because it is a faith statement being pushed as truth on society.
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Re: Evidence for theistic evolution
Regardless evidence to back up your theory will resonate to those who desire to know the truth.Evidence will speak louder than words declaring life evolves or there was a former world that perished that existed.Audie wrote:For those whose thinking is all faith-based, everything looks like a nail.Kenny wrote:Go ahead and try it! Let's see what happens.abelcainsbrother wrote:.I can post a link to a scientific paper of a scientists explaining how dinosaurs evolved into birds,then say give us scientific evidence that demonstrates that can happen and they won't be able to because it is a faith statement being pushed as truth on society.
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Hebrews 12:2-3 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross,despising the shame,and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
2nd Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,lest the light of this glorious gospel of Christ,who is the image of God,should shine unto them.
2nd Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,lest the light of this glorious gospel of Christ,who is the image of God,should shine unto them.
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I have not ever looked into that area specifically,but if there was evidence to support it?I think I could find it or tell you there is none yet.Kurieuo wrote:If ACB will be finding scientific papers, I wonder if he could also find some explaining consciousness in physical reductionist terms?Kenny wrote:Go ahead and try it! Let's see what happens.abelcainsbrother wrote:.I can post a link to a scientific paper of a scientists explaining how dinosaurs evolved into birds,then say give us scientific evidence that demonstrates that can happen and they won't be able to because it is a faith statement being pushed as truth on society.
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Hebrews 12:2-3 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross,despising the shame,and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
2nd Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,lest the light of this glorious gospel of Christ,who is the image of God,should shine unto them.
2nd Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,lest the light of this glorious gospel of Christ,who is the image of God,should shine unto them.
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When I have looked into evolution science and examined the evidence that is supposed to support evolution,it is astonishing to me how it ever passed peer review as evidence.Had I been peer reviewing? It would'nt have got my vote.
Hebrews 12:2-3 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross,despising the shame,and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
2nd Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,lest the light of this glorious gospel of Christ,who is the image of God,should shine unto them.
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If evolution is as flawed as you say, why don't cha publish your findings?abelcainsbrother wrote:When I have looked into evolution science and examined the evidence that is supposed to support evolution,it is astonishing to me how it ever passed peer review as evidence.Had I been peer reviewing? It would'nt have got my vote.
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Ken,Kenny wrote:If evolution is as flawed as you say, why don't cha publish your findings?abelcainsbrother wrote:When I have looked into evolution science and examined the evidence that is supposed to support evolution,it is astonishing to me how it ever passed peer review as evidence.Had I been peer reviewing? It would'nt have got my vote.
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ACB has been consistent in saying that he sees no evidence for evolution. Which means he has found nothing!
You want him to publish no findings?
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