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[Audie]

Well, let us know if the need for a supernatural entity to poof a mind into place is anything but an argument from ignorance.

That is the very definition of an argument from ignorance (literally).

I was thinking the same thing Byblos.

Hey, it worked for lightning for the longest time.

[Audie]

Proinsias wrote:
Not made a great deal of progress on the mind/body problem, but the bacon was excellent. I don't see the implication of purpose evident in the human mind, it's seems more of chocolate or vanilla type problem than an obvious implication.

I can kinda understand why someone who doesn't believe in God would say that. Simply because if there is no God, there really is no purpose to anything.

Frankly, it just seems silly to me, that the human mind can be anything except a product of an intelligent creator.

1 Corinthians 2:14
But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.

Ecactly! People are so wonderful, that only a mighty God could be behind such splendor.

[RickD]

Proinsias wrote:
Not made a great deal of progress on the mind/body problem, but the bacon was excellent. I don't see the implication of purpose evident in the human mind, it's seems more of chocolate or vanilla type problem than an obvious implication.

I can kinda understand why someone who doesn't believe in God would say that. Simply because if there is no God, there really is no purpose to anything.

Frankly, it just seems silly to me, that the human mind can be anything except a product of an intelligent creator.

1 Corinthians 2:14
But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.

Ecactly! People are so wonderful, that only a mighty God could be behind such splendor.

[EssentialSacrifice]

is anything but an argument from ignorance

Your own words convict you Audie, and that's not good news, for as Christians, believe me, we have heard this before, from the very mouth of Christ.

When the best that can be said of another's response is held in contempt and mockery, it is time to shake the dust from your sandals, remove yourself from their presence and allow them to wallow in their ignorance. Very mean spirited, self indulgent and meaningless post... your humility is underwhelming.

[Storyteller]

Proinsias wrote:
Not made a great deal of progress on the mind/body problem, but the bacon was excellent. I don't see the implication of purpose evident in the human mind, it's seems more of chocolate or vanilla type problem than an obvious implication.

I can kinda understand why someone who doesn't believe in God would say that. Simply because if there is no God, there really is no purpose to anything.

Frankly, it just seems silly to me, that the human mind can be anything except a product of an intelligent creator.

1 Corinthians 2:14
But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.

Ecactly! People are so wonderful, that only a mighty God could be behind such splendor.

People are wonderful.

Why are you so against God being the Creator?

[Byblos]

Well, let us know if the need for a supernatural entity to poof a mind into place is anything but an argument from ignorance.

That is the very definition of an argument from ignorance (literally).

I was thinking the same thing Byblos.

Hey, it worked for lightning for the longest time.

2 for 2.

And that's only today.

[Proinsias]

Robert Quillen: "An argument is an exchange of ignorance"

[Proinsias]

Proinsias wrote:
Not made a great deal of progress on the mind/body problem, but the bacon was excellent. I don't see the implication of purpose evident in the human mind, it's seems more of chocolate or vanilla type problem than an obvious implication.

I can kinda understand why someone who doesn't believe in God would say that. Simply because if there is no God, there really is no purpose to anything.

Frankly, it just seems silly to me, that the human mind can be anything except a product of an intelligent creator.

1 Corinthians 2:14
But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.

To each their own, I don't find either option silly or particularly convincing.

[EssentialSacrifice]

Robert Quillen: "An argument is an exchange of ignorance"

I like this... guilty as charged sorry Audie, lost my temper and am sorry ...not wrong ... but even the knows when to admit guilt.

[Audie]

is anything but an argument from ignorance

Your own words convict you Audie, and that's not good news, for as Christians, believe me, we have heard this before, from the very mouth of Christ.

When the best that can be said of another's response is held in contempt and mockery, it is time to shake the dust from your sandals, remove yourself from their presence and allow them to wallow in their ignorance. Very mean spirited, self indulgent and meaningless post... your humility is underwhelming.

Considering the improbability of a civil conversation from you, please refrain from addressing me again.

[Audie]

Proinsias wrote:
Not made a great deal of progress on the mind/body problem, but the bacon was excellent. I don't see the implication of purpose evident in the human mind, it's seems more of chocolate or vanilla type problem than an obvious implication.

I can kinda understand why someone who doesn't believe in God would say that. Simply because if there is no God, there really is no purpose to anything.

Frankly, it just seems silly to me, that the human mind can be anything except a product of an intelligent creator.

1 Corinthians 2:14
But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.

Ecactly! People are so wonderful, that only a mighty God could be behind such splendor.

People are wonderful.

Why are you so against God being the Creator?

Im not "so against it". I just think its a weird sort of arrogant humility to think that only something so great as the designer of the universe could have accounted for the wonder of people's minds.

[RickD]

is anything but an argument from ignorance

Your own words convict you Audie, and that's not good news, for as Christians, believe me, we have heard this before, from the very mouth of Christ.

When the best that can be said of another's response is held in contempt and mockery, it is time to shake the dust from your sandals, remove yourself from their presence and allow them to wallow in their ignorance. Very mean spirited, self indulgent and meaningless post... your humility is underwhelming.

Considering the improbability of a civil conversation from you, please refrain from addressing me again.

Audie,
This is becoming a pattern from you. You say what you want. But when someone says something you don't like, you throw a hissy fit, and tell them not to speak to you anymore.

You need to understand that it's not a personal insult whenever anyone disagrees with you, or criticizes what you say.

[Audie]

is anything but an argument from ignorance

Your own words convict you Audie, and that's not good news, for as Christians, believe me, we have heard this before, from the very mouth of Christ.

When the best that can be said of another's response is held in contempt and mockery, it is time to shake the dust from your sandals, remove yourself from their presence and allow them to wallow in their ignorance.

Considering the improbability of a civil conversation from you, please refrain from addressing me again.

Audie,
This is becoming a pattern from you. You say what you want. But when someone says something you don't like, you throw a hissy fit, and tell them not to speak to you anymore.

You need to understand that it's not a personal insult whenever anyone disagrees with you, or criticizes what you say.

I disagreed with the notion that a supernatural entity is needed to make the human mind, with the summary and completely non personal statement that it is an argument from ignorance.

What comes back is in bold, above. "contempt, mockery, wallow in ignorance, Very mean spirited, self indulgent and meaningless post... your humility is underwhelming."

Not a word on topic, pure personal attack. Followed by one from you,.. speaking of people who need to know what is a disagreement, and what is a personal attack.

[Byblos]

Why are you so against God being the Creator?

Im not "so against it". I just think its a weird sort of arrogant humility to think that only something so great as the designer of the universe could have accounted for the wonder of people's minds.

As opposed to ...

[Storyteller]

is anything but an argument from ignorance

Your own words convict you Audie, and that's not good news, for as Christians, believe me, we have heard this before, from the very mouth of Christ.

When the best that can be said of another's response is held in contempt and mockery, it is time to shake the dust from your sandals, remove yourself from their presence and allow them to wallow in their ignorance.

Considering the improbability of a civil conversation from you, please refrain from addressing me again.

Audie,
This is becoming a pattern from you. You say what you want. But when someone says something you don't like, you throw a hissy fit, and tell them not to speak to you anymore.

You need to understand that it's not a personal insult whenever anyone disagrees with you, or criticizes what you say.

I disagreed with the notion that a supernatural entity is needed to make the human mind, with the summary and completely non personal statement that it is an argument from ignorance.

What comes back is in bold, above. "contempt, mockery, wallow in ignorance, Very mean spirited, self indulgent and meaningless post... your humility is underwhelming."

Not a word on topic, pure personal attack. Followed by one from you,.. speaking of people who need to know what is a disagreement, and what is a personal attack.

The insinuation, though, was that to believe in a supernatural entity is borne of ignorance.
I know you don't think we are all ignorant but if I didn't? Sorry Audie, that's how it read.

We cannot convince you of God any more that you can convince us not.

All any of us can do is follow our hearts and I pray you will, one day, let God into yours.

(One brick at a time x)