RickD wrote:
If you believe it's wrong, always wrong to rape a child, then you are demonstrating morality.
Ken wrote:
Morality isn’t the debate; the debate is subjective vs objective. You view objective as true inspite of what others say, and I view objective as something that is true and can be demonstrated by facts or mathematical equations.
Because morality cannot be demonstrated by facts or mathematical equations, I do not believe morality is objective.
But Kenny, you said:
Yes I get it. To you objective morality is a morality that is based in your concept of God. To me objective morality is something that does not exist because morality cannot be demonstrated.
I was just showing you that one can demonstrate morality, which you disagreed with.
So, because morality cannot be demonstrated by facts or mathematical equations(science), morality is not objective? How does that possibly follow? It makes absolutely no sense.
I hope you are not suggesting that if something cannot be demonstrated by science, it doesn't exist. Is that what you're saying?
Kenny wrote:
I have the same right to voice my subjective opinion as you have to voice God’s objective opinion; (remember I view my subjective moral opinions as superior to all others that differ just as you view God's objective moral opinion as superior to all others) and the person we are telling is just as likely to dismiss my subjective opinion as he is to dismiss God’s objective opinion.
You can claim God is right inspite of what others say, and I can claim I am right inspite of what others may say. Sounds like we're in the same boat my friend!
I'm afraid not Kenny. This is your boat:
RickD I was just showing you that one can demonstrate morality, which you disagreed with.
Ken
To believe raping a child is wrong is not a demonstration of morality
RickD So, because morality cannot be demonstrated by facts or mathematical equations(science), morality is not objective? How does that possibly follow? It makes absolutely no sense.
To add to what Byblos said, this pretty much sums it up.
John 5:24 24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
pretty much sums it up.