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Its got nothing to do with being an atheist, You might possibly consider not trying to get a dig in at every non-opportunity. Might, that is.
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Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:
RickD wrote:
Audie wrote:
Its got nothing to do with being an atheist, You might possibly consider not trying to get a dig in at every non-opportunity. Might, that is.
Yes FL, get it right. She's agnostic. y#-o
Agnostic, Smagnostic. The Bible lumps all unbelievers into one category: Unbelievers. These people claim that the God of the Bible isn't God. Whatever :flyingspaghetti: Audie believes in stinks in the nostrils of God.

'nuff said. I have resolved to be polite and loving.

FL y:D
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Belief in God is far from gullible.

What may it not be? Proof?

I dont know but if it is?
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The interesting part of NDEs is that they highly suggest that there is more to us than the mere physical. That said, we gotta be VERY careful, as NDEs are all over the map, as to their content, as people of a variety of faiths have them - not all of them are Christians, not all of them afterward being changed to a Christian faith, that the supposed "Heaven" that some recipients subsequently describe is very suspect as being the one of Scripture Also, as we know that the experiences differ wildly and widely, then we must be careful of how we interpret them - and that's not to say that the experience didn't happen or that a person definitely didn't temporarily transition to another dimension - they well might have, and yet the experience while WHEREVER they were might have been a deception. In my opinion, ANY person that was not a Christian prior to their NDE, who nonetheless describes being in Heaven during their NDE, should be considered to have been deceived. Only Christians go to Heaven! Now, they might have experienced a glimpse of hell (BW!), been given another chance here, but did they actually VISIT Heaven? No!
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Audie wrote:
RickD wrote:
Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:
RickD wrote:
Audie wrote:
Its got nothing to do with being an atheist, You might possibly consider not trying to get a dig in at every non-opportunity. Might, that is.

Yes FL, get it right. She's agnostic. y#-o
Agnostic, Smagnostic. The Bible lumps all unbelievers into one category: Unbelievers. These people claim that the God of the Bible isn't God. Whatever :flyingspaghetti: Audie believes in stinks in the nostrils of God.

'nuff said. I have resolved to be polite and loving.

FL y:D
But the bible says that those that say there is no God, are fools. Audie ain't no fool. She's just a little slow in coming around. But she'll get there. :sunny:
I wouldnt go to someplace with a FL in it even if I was dead.
Dont, go with Christ instead
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Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:
RickD wrote:
But the bible says that those that say there is no God, are fools. Audie ain't no fool. She's just a little slow in coming around. But she'll get there. :sunny:
Yeah, the Bible says that those who say there is no God are fools, Ps 14:1. Hindus worship a multutude of idols, Muslims worship Allah and go around a black rock during the Hajj, animists worship a bunch of spirits, atheists worship whatever, and agnostics are confused. A false god is no god, so worship a false god and you might as well be dancing around a totem pole for all the good it will do you.

Another way to look at it: die in any false worship and you go to Hell. God doesn't say, "Well, my son, you were a good agnostic in life, giving to the poor and protecting the Environment, so you'll get into Paradise."

Ps 14:1 applies to a helluva lot of people, not just crazed atheists.

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Bip: Now if someone knowingly rejects after knowing his word that is a different story . How can you reject what u never had a chance to know . Another classic example is a person that grows up in a fire and Brie stone church that teaches them that God is an angry tyrant that will vanquish you to hell for even the slightest sin. Is it this persons fault that he was taught the wrong understanding of God or his pastors or priests fault ?
Bippy, Romans 1 and 2 clearly show that ALL people have enough knowledge to know that God exists and that they can either reject God or want to know more beyond the basic things He has ALREADY shown them about Himself. They don't need to know about Jesus to reject God. They just don't know ALL about Him that they are rejecting. But Romans says THAT is enough to leave them without excuse. God honors ALL who seek Him, who want to know more! But pretending He doesn't exist, insisting that they can't know, that they don't want to know, avoiding Him, denying clear evidences of His existence - these are ALL forms of rejecting God. And when Paul talks of those doomed without the Gospel, it's instructive that He not once mentions their rejection of Christ as being the reason for their fate.
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SS, with regard to "Go with Christ instead", it depends on who is there.

Eternity with FL, bip, phil, jac or abc sounds like hell to.me.
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Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:
Kurieuo wrote:Helluva lot of people is perhaps an understatement.Just like there is none but God who are good, likewise I think only God is not foolish.Thankfully God loves us fools anyway.
I have no clue about what you are rattling on about. The context of Ps 14:1 is clear: those who say there is no God are fools. The G is capitalized indicating that the deity referred to is the Real One, not Vishnu, or Allah or the Environment or :flyingspaghetti:

FL :amen:
I'm essentially agreeing with you, but going further.

Ps 14:1 says there is no one good, but Jesus said no one is good but God.
Ps 14:1 also says those who say there is no God are fools, but I think that all of us are fools except God.

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Audie: Eternity with FL, bip, phil, jac or abc sounds like hell to.me.
Isn't she so adorable and sweet? :pound: I would never say that about HER!

Min, I didn't know you had a HELL list!

Hate to tell you, but it's NOT like this:

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But you might just get to play First Chair Harp one day, we on "The List" will keep working on you. :wave:
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Audie wrote:SS, with regard to "Go with Christ instead", it depends on who is there.

Eternity with FL, bip, phil, jac or abc sounds like hell to.me.
Why is it that I'm a little disappointed I didn't make that list? y:-?
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Audie wrote:
SS, with regard to "Go with Christ instead", it depends on who is there.

Eternity with FL, bip, phil, jac or abc sounds like hell to.me.

Rick: Why is it that I'm a little disappointed I didn't make that list? y:-?
Rick, you only made the "Heck List." The "Hell List" is lower down. You've been too nice to Audie of late - ya gotta quit being so lovable! :pound:
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I think I made the AIg list. :(
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Philip wrote:
Audie wrote:
SS, with regard to "Go with Christ instead", it depends on who is there.

Eternity with FL, bip, phil, jac or abc sounds like hell to.me.

Rick: Why is it that I'm a little disappointed I didn't make that list? y:-?
Rick, you only made the "Heck List." The "Hell List" is lower down. You've been too nice to Audie of late - ya gotta quit being so lovable! :pound:
That's it!! No more Mr. Nice Guy!!!

Audie,

You want bread? NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!!
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Rick, now remember, she's STILL a GIRL - you can be tougher, but ya gotta do it in a nice way!

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