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Is it moral / ethical to purchase goods produced in third world sweatshops?
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Re: sweatshops
When the US had sweatshops, those who worked in sweatshops were still better off than those with no job at all; I suspect the same applies to those in current third world countries.Audie wrote:Is it moral / ethical to purchase goods produced in third world sweatshops?
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Re: sweatshops
I have no problem buying stuff made in the sweatshops of Asian countries if there is no other choice. Whenever I must make a purchase, I prefer - and look for - products made in First World countries. I don't mind paying more but it is getting difficult to find manufactured consumer goods from First World countries. For example, I was looking for power tools and decided to buy the Milwaukee brand. I thought they were a USA company...well, they are, but their tools are made in China! Metabo, a German tool maker, also uses Chinese manufacturing. Like it or not, most tools for the consumer market are made in China. The Makita brand makes its tools in Japan, so I bought Makita because Japan isn't a sweatshop country. Hilti, a manufacturer from Liechtenstein, makes its tools in First World countries but they are mostly for the industrial market. Even U.S. aircraft manufacturer Cessna has its latest model made in China...! Unless you go really high end, most stuff - tools, clothes, electronics & gadgets - are all made by people who work long hours in bad conditions to earn a crummy living. They live in horribly polluted environments, and they'll die young.Audie wrote:Is it moral / ethical to purchase goods produced in third world sweatshops?
Such is the world we live in, and it will not change.
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Re: sweatshops
but are we wrong as Christians? I mean it's poor working conditions and slavery.
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Re: sweatshops
Poor working conditions; yes! Slavery; no.UsagiTsukino wrote:but are we wrong as Christians? I mean it's poor working conditions and slavery.
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You don't know what you're talking about, again.Kenny wrote:Poor working conditions; yes! Slavery; no.
www.slaveryfootprint.org/survey/
The slavery is real but such is the condition of most people in the world, so I don't worry about it.
Speaking of slavery, a friend's son has returned to Ouagadougou to supervise the building of two roads for a mining company. The son is well paid and lives in air-conditionned comfort in the 42c heat, as do all the white workers there...
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No, it won`t. All the time we think that.Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:I have no problem buying stuff made in the sweatshops of Asian countries if there is no other choice. Whenever I must make a purchase, I prefer - and look for - products made in First World countries. I don't mind paying more but it is getting difficult to find manufactured consumer goods from First World countries. For example, I was looking for power tools and decided to buy the Milwaukee brand. I thought they were a USA company...well, they are, but their tools are made in China! Metabo, a German tool maker, also uses Chinese manufacturing. Like it or not, most tools for the consumer market are made in China. The Makita brand makes its tools in Japan, so I bought Makita because Japan isn't a sweatshop country. Hilti, a manufacturer from Liechtenstein, makes its tools in First World countries but they are mostly for the industrial market. Even U.S. aircraft manufacturer Cessna has its latest model made in China...! Unless you go really high end, most stuff - tools, clothes, electronics & gadgets - are all made by people who work long hours in bad conditions to earn a crummy living. They live in horribly polluted environments, and they'll die young.Audie wrote:Is it moral / ethical to purchase goods produced in third world sweatshops?
Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:Such is the world we live in, and it will not change.
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I don`t know what the answer is but I know that just saying that that`s just the way it is won`t change anything!
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Read your Bible. Things get worse and worse as time goes by, not better. Christians are not here to make the world better, for that would be impossible. We are here to spread the Message of Salvation through Christ. That's it, that's all.Storyteller wrote:I don`t know what the answer is but I know that just saying that that`s just the way it is won`t change anything!
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So we turn a blind eye to all that is wrong in the world because we can`t change it?Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:Read your Bible. Things get worse and worse as time goes by, not better. Christians are not here to make the world better, for that would be impossible. We are here to spread the Message of Salvation through Christ. That's it, that's all.Storyteller wrote:I don`t know what the answer is but I know that just saying that that`s just the way it is won`t change anything!
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Why can we not try and do both?
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Storyteller wrote:So we turn a blind eye to all that is wrong in the world because we can`t change it?Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:Read your Bible. Things get worse and worse as time goes by, not better. Christians are not here to make the world better, for that would be impossible. We are here to spread the Message of Salvation through Christ. That's it, that's all.Storyteller wrote:I don`t know what the answer is but I know that just saying that that`s just the way it is won`t change anything!
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Why can we not try and do both?
The profound irresponsible selfishness of the viewpoint put forth there by FL is appalling.
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If there is no God - why would this mater at allAudie wrote:Is it moral / ethical to purchase goods produced in third world sweatshops?
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Try this: grab a baby bear, and when the mother heads your way tell her:B. W. wrote:If there is no God - why would this mater at allAudie wrote:Is it moral / ethical to purchase goods produced in third world sweatshops?
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Audie wrote:Try this: grab a baby bear, and when the mother heads your way tell her:B. W. wrote:If there is no God - why would this mater at allAudie wrote:Is it moral / ethical to purchase goods produced in third world sweatshops?
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"You dont believe in god, so why do you care?"
Would that make her a Care Bear?
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It would make BW into a person who understands that god has nothing to do with whether some things matter.
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My, now 27, daughter's favorite ... hanging mobilWould that make her a Care Bear?
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