Audie wrote:So many of you xtians are so into binary thinking. Absolutes. What is with that? Is it a cause or res
Ult of religiosity?
Have you create an absolute category there for many of us Christians?
Are you not just as absolute about not Christianity and not God.
[quote=""Audie"]There a lot of kinds of "true". Are parables true?[/quote]
I don't know what you are meaning...
Audie wrote:"All" it entails? By whose figuring? Gappists, yec, Mormons, and all the other interpretations and mutually contradictory takes on "truth"? Unicorns?
So then... if a crime is committed against another whether a murder, rape or assault.
And we have different witnesses to it. They're all wrong? Unicorns?
Let's examine Gappists and YEC. They differ on creation story?
I guarantee you that any YEC and Gappist on this board that they agree on Christ.
Or Mormons who add to the Bible with Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon, something clearly forewarned against in Scripture via being wise to false prophets.
But then, where there is a distortion of truth, there must exist the Truth upon which such distortions can occur.
[quote=""Audie"]Some percent of Christians for sure are fools. But which? Everyone says its them others gets it wrong.[/quote]
You have this bias against Christians.
Why not just some some percent of Atheists, Agnostics, Hong Kongians, Australians, American, [insert any group].
And guess what, there is as much diverse opinions as their are people. BUT, what is the one truth that makes a Christian CHRISTIAN?
It must be something akin to the one truth that makes rape RAPE, or assault ASSAULT, or murder MURDER.
Some basis in an objective reality that is separate from the subject (us).
There is also large agreement, so let's take your argument to an extreme that "diverse opinions between those groups mean they're ALL wrong on matters they disagree."
Then using the same reasoning, these groups must be ALL be right on matter that they agree.
Therefore using your argument to dismiss many "fringe" beliefs where there is disagreement,
God must exist as too Christ who performed miracles, was crucified and resurrection -- since all these groups agree on this.
Furthermore, you leave me wondering whether
you agree with everything Dawkins says?
If not, then I can't trust you on anything biology-wise. Or is it Dawkins I can't trust?
Oh damn. I guess you're both always wrong. OR, maybe I can pull my thumb out to examine matters myself, any disagreements, and come to a conclusion myself.
Audie wrote:As for Jesus the lunatic..how do YOU know what he really said or meant by it? Remote viewing?
Have you read CS Lewis' Mere Christianity? If not, then I'd highly recommend it to you.
It should be a recommended reading by anyone Christian or not who is on a board like this discussing such issues.
Especially for the Jesus honest, liar or lunatic chatter.
Audie wrote:How about these two possibilities:
Either you are gifted with infallible readin' and err not, or you are not.
I think many of us Christians concede that we may be wrong on this or that.
The one issue we're adamant upon is Christ.
If on the other hand you think we can never be right about anything, then why should we listen to you?
You have nothing you can be right about (truth) to contribute. Anyone's opinion is therefore as good as each others.
We may as well believe anything we want to believe since truth is all a matter of opinion anyway.
Sorry, I don't buy into relative truth. Some things really are true despite what anyone thinks.
AND, I believe we can know truth, and indeed experience the truth of reality in a practical way every day.