Once more the genes have it.

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Once more the genes have it.

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We all know by now that genetics is the key factor in physical prowess BUT for sometime the debate in terms of intellect was a bit off the charts because of the potential volatile nature.
Most simply wanted to assume that it was a combination of "nature and nurture" with more emphasis on nurture.
Well...

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2...st-study-shows

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The researchers analysed genetic data and GCSE scores from 12,500 twins, about half of whom were identical.

Results in all subjects, including maths, science, art and humanities, were highly heritable, with genes explaining a bigger proportion of the differences between children (54-65%) than environmental factors, such as school and family combined (14-21%), which were shared by the twins.

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Comparing the outcomes for identical twins with fraternal twins allows scientists to investigate the extent to which genetics influence a person’s life. Identical twins share 100% of their genes, whereas fraternal twins share on average only half of the genes that differ between people.

So if genetics were a significant factor governing GCSE results, the differences between fraternal twins’ performances would be expected to be consistently greater than those between identical twins – and this is what the scientists saw.

When the scientists factored in IQ scores, they found that intelligence appeared to account for slightly less than half of the genetic component, suggesting that other heritable traits – curiosity, determination and memory, perhaps – play a significant role.

Kaili Rimfeld, who led the study and is also at King’s College London, said: “There’s a general academic achievement factor. Children who do well in one subject tend to better in another subject and that is largely for genetic reasons.”

Plomin said that while talking about genetics and education was no longer the taboo that it was twenty years ago, education professionals were slow to adapt teaching methods in the face of new scientific findings. “It’s a problem with evidence,” he said. “Thirty years ago medicine wasn’t particularly evidence-based. I think education is fundamentally not based on evidence. What programme has been rolled out that has been based on evidence? We ought to hold educationalists to the same standards of evidence as medicine.”
Of course there was also a cautionary tone:
However, other scientists cautioned that it was too early to take the latest findings and apply them in schools. John Hardy, professor of neuroscience at University College London, said: “Twin studies are a mainstay of behavioural genetics, but they make a simple assumption that is unlikely to be true - that is that we treat identical twins the same as we treat non-identical twins. These results are interesting, therefore, but by no means definitive and it would be unwise to make educational decisions based on these data.”
To the caution I ask this:
What are we currently basing or "education decisions" on ?
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Re: Once more the genes have it.

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Epigenetics seems to be showing the opposite that despite twins having the same genes environmental factors and their diet effects how the genes are expressed even though they still look the same.I'm siding with epigenetics because I reject evolution and I think epigenetics goes against evolution as has been understood but science is circling the wagons protecting evolution even though not one scientist has ever demonstrated life evolves.

It has been awhile since I looked into epigenetics but queen bees are an example of how they have the same genes,yet based on how they are raised and their diet the same genes are expressed differently.
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