OK, is there a difference here between the court clerk refusing to do what the law says she must and these Christian bakers who refused to decorate a wedding cake for a gay wedding? Should the bakers pay their fine while appealing? What?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/01/or ... tcmp=hpbt4
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I noticed the sign the woman was carrying about why we all can't just eat cake equally....well, it's not actually about the 'cake'.
Hey! wait..did I just say it's not about the cake?
What is wrong with me?!
Hey! wait..did I just say it's not about the cake?
What is wrong with me?!
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Forced tolerance is NOT tolerance.
Forced acceptance is NOT acceptance.
As soon as people understand this, the better.
When a government is allowed to pass a laws the tells the private sector WHO they MUST cater to, then the problem isn't the government, its the people that ALLOW the government to pass these laws.
Forced acceptance is NOT acceptance.
As soon as people understand this, the better.
When a government is allowed to pass a laws the tells the private sector WHO they MUST cater to, then the problem isn't the government, its the people that ALLOW the government to pass these laws.
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When a government is allowed to pass a laws the tells the private sector WHO they MUST cater to, then the problem isn't the government, its the people that ALLOW the government to pass these laws.
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Yes, it's not as if the gay couple didn't have many other choices of bakers that would have gladly accommodated them. Notice how, in such situations, the supposedly aggrieved gay persons don't see how THEY are discriminating against the right of a Christian to practice their spiritual beliefs - as CLEARLY, they do not view such personal rights as being a TWO-way street! And they not only don't respect the right of others' beliefs, but THEN they sue them so as to cause them much stress and cost. Why? Because they are more interested in scoring some supposed political point than they are simply understanding and respecting the business owner and driving a few minutes to another baker's business. Who is the REAL haters here?
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The bakers did not refuse to decorate a cake for a gay marriage. They refused to decorate it for a same sex marriage. The two are not the same.
https://clydeherrin.wordpress.com/2015/ ... -marriage/
Perhaps if Christians would stop using the phrase "gay marriage" and only speak of "same sex" marriages it would help others to understand what we are trying to do.
https://clydeherrin.wordpress.com/2015/ ... -marriage/
Perhaps if Christians would stop using the phrase "gay marriage" and only speak of "same sex" marriages it would help others to understand what we are trying to do.
God wants full custody of his children, not just visits on Sunday.
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Don't be silly. It's the same thing. Gay marriage means the couple is the same sex. If a man and woman get married, and one of them happens to be attracted to the same sex, their heterosexual marriage is not called a gay marriage.theophilus wrote:The bakers did not refuse to decorate a cake for a gay marriage. They refused to decorate it for a same sex marriage. The two are not the same.
https://clydeherrin.wordpress.com/2015/ ... -marriage/
Perhaps if Christians would stop using the phrase "gay marriage" and only speak of "same sex" marriages it would help others to understand what we are trying to do.
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St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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I was listening to some political pundit the other night and he said 60% of Christians are not voting.
Hebrews 12:2-3 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross,despising the shame,and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
2nd Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,lest the light of this glorious gospel of Christ,who is the image of God,should shine unto them.
2nd Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,lest the light of this glorious gospel of Christ,who is the image of God,should shine unto them.
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Define "Christian", in regards to the poll.abelcainsbrother wrote:I was listening to some political pundit the other night and he said 60% of Christians are not voting.
If it's defined as anyone who calls themselves Christian, then that's probably close to 70% of the US population.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
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St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
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Sorry I was just listening to him ramble on about Christians not voting while I was driving.I was not able to verify though but he seemed to be making sense in explaining why Christians should vote.RickD wrote:Define "Christian", in regards to the poll.abelcainsbrother wrote:I was listening to some political pundit the other night and he said 60% of Christians are not voting.
If it's defined as anyone who calls themselves Christian, then that's probably close to 70% of the US population.
Hebrews 12:2-3 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross,despising the shame,and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
2nd Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,lest the light of this glorious gospel of Christ,who is the image of God,should shine unto them.
2nd Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,lest the light of this glorious gospel of Christ,who is the image of God,should shine unto them.
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Well, one thing about America, the Supremes can easily nuke our votes. But, yeah, terrible many Americans don't vote!
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Diana Ross?Philip wrote:Well, one thing about America, the Supremes can easily nuke our votes. But, yeah, terrible many Americans don't vote!
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
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St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
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Diana has help! Unfortunately.
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Now, EVERY perceived thing is considered a "right" if it COULD be offered by some public entity, but isn't.
Check out this - ACLU suing Catholic hospital for not offering abortions:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/453072264600 ... show-clips
What do you guys think about THAT?
Check out this - ACLU suing Catholic hospital for not offering abortions:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/453072264600 ... show-clips
What do you guys think about THAT?
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DAMN CATHOLIC HOSPITALS! HOW DARE THEY TRY TO DO THE MORALLY RIGHT THING!!!!Philip wrote:Now, EVERY perceived thing is considered a "right" if it COULD be offered by some public entity, but isn't.
Check out this - ACLU suing Catholic hospital for not offering abortions:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/453072264600 ... show-clips
What do you guys think about THAT?
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony