How did God become man?

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I dont think dfnj was denying Christ but your second quote is apt. :)
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Storyteller wrote:I dont think dfnj was denying Christ but your second quote is apt. :)
I did not say he was I think it was the latter part of that scripture that applied but I did not want to cut off the first part. I hope you understand.
Hebrews 12:2-3 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross,despising the shame,and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

2nd Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,lest the light of this glorious gospel of Christ,who is the image of God,should shine unto them.
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I do. I misunderstood, sorry xx
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Storyteller,

Look at dfnj' posts here, and his posts elsewhere. He denies Jesus is God.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.


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He does? :shock:

Seriously?

Why?
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Ask him.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.


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RickD wrote:Storyteller,

Look at dfnj' posts here, and his posts elsewhere. He denies Jesus is God.
Jesus is certainly God now. During Jesus's time here on earth he was a very wise Jewish rabbi and prophet.

Let me ask you a question. There are 1.6 billion Muslims. There are about a billion Hindus. There millions of other practicing many other types of religions than Christianity:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/worldrel.htm

Are all these people practicing all these religions going to be "saved" and allowed to enter the gates of heaven to experience eternally heavenly bliss? Or are they all condemned to go to Hell?

Before you label me I will tell you my answer is absolutely "yes". So my faith in God is very much different than yours if you say "no". I believe God uses his omnipotent powers of unconditional forgiveness so each of us gets to experience heavenly eternal bliss regardless of which religion we practice. In God's eyes we are all sacred.
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dfnj wrote:
Jesus is certainly God now. During Jesus's time here on earth he was a very wise Jewish rabbi and prophet.
So,

You deny Christ. You believe in a false Christ. The bible says that God became a man, in the person of Jesus Christ.

Your false Christ says a man, Jesus the "Jewish rabbi and prophet", became God.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.


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Storyteller wrote:I dont think dfnj was denying Christ but your second quote is apt. :)
I'm not denying Christ. I embrace the teachings of Jesus:

"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are they who mourn, for they shall be comforted.
Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.
Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.
Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy.
Blessed are the pure of heart, for they shall see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God.
Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

Love your enemy is probably the greatest sentiment ever expressed by a prophet. I just find it so interesting that people who are so devout to Jesus persecute and hate everyone else who does not practice religion exactly the way they do. Even within denominations of Christianity!

Jesus says "for they shall see God." Jesus does not say "for they shall see me." I think if we do not have some humility with regards to our fandom of Jesus we are missing the core point of all his teachings. I guess I'm just old fashion in my beliefs.
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Storyteller wrote:rick?

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Dvarn Kvindle!!!!
John 5:24
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dfnj...

Christ was God in human form, to show us, to prove His love. Christ and God are the same.

Christ is God. He is our salvation. Only through Him, unless we dont know Him, can we truly relate to God.

Trust me, I know, I'm a woman ;)
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RickD wrote:
dfnj wrote:
Jesus is certainly God now. During Jesus's time here on earth he was a very wise Jewish rabbi and prophet.
So,

You deny Christ. You believe in a false Christ. The bible says that God became a man, in the person of Jesus Christ.

Your false Christ says a man, Jesus the "Jewish rabbi and prophet", became God.
You argument is fallacious. Yes, the bible says that god became a man, in the person of Jesus Christ. It does not follow that I therefore believe in a false Christ. I believe just as in Jesus Christ, we are all divine through the power of God's love and forgiveness. God is God. Every other word is a false idol. I'm sorry if my faith in God offends you but God always comes first.
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RickD wrote:
Storyteller wrote:rick?

my posts are disappearing
Dvarn Kvindle!!!!
was a good post too :(

was it me or did you delete it?
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dnfj?
Is Christ God?
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