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Alright, i got a good question.
Before the theory of evolution and big bang was made, what did athiests believe in?
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Re: Alright, i got a good question.
I don't know, but it wasn't God... I'm actually better at these if they're multiple choice ! I mean I am 85 !Before the theory of evolution and big bang was made, what did athiests believe in?
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Re: Alright, i got a good question.
Why only atheists?JurassicTerrorist wrote:Before the theory of evolution and big bang was made, what did athiests believe in?
Some theists believe in evolution and the Big Bang.
John 5:24
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Re: Alright, i got a good question.
The modern atheist is someone that believes this is all there is and there is nothing else.
That only what is observable or verifiable by science is "real".
That type of atheist didn't exist till about the 19th century,perhaps 17th.
Before that they were agnostic or simply the atheist type that believed that only what we can see with our 5 senses was real.
That only what is observable or verifiable by science is "real".
That type of atheist didn't exist till about the 19th century,perhaps 17th.
Before that they were agnostic or simply the atheist type that believed that only what we can see with our 5 senses was real.
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Re: Alright, i got a good question.
True, but before those theories were made theists believed God created the universe, Atheists didn't, and if they did they wouldn't be athiests.RickD wrote:Why only atheists?JurassicTerrorist wrote:Before the theory of evolution and big bang was made, what did athiests believe in?
Some theists believe in evolution and the Big Bang.
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Re: Alright, i got a good question.
As an Skeptic/Atheist, I have to agree with ES; whatever they believed, it didn't include God.JurassicTerrorist wrote:Before the theory of evolution and big bang was made, what did athiests believe in?
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"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence".
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What's the difference between the modern atheist who believes only that which is observable and verifiable by science is real, vs the pre 17th century atheist who believes only that which can be experienced via our 5 seances are real? Am I missing something here?PaulSacramento wrote:The modern atheist is someone that believes this is all there is and there is nothing else.
That only what is observable or verifiable by science is "real".
That type of atheist didn't exist till about the 19th century,perhaps 17th.
Before that they were agnostic or simply the atheist type that believed that only what we can see with our 5 senses was real.
Ken
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"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence".
"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence".
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Re: Alright, i got a good question.
I'd say you're missing something. A seance is an attempt to communicate with spirits. So, the difference is that a modern atheist who believes only that which is observable and verifiable by science, and an atheist who conducts seances, is pretty obvious.Kenny wrote:What's the difference between the modern atheist who believes only that which is observable and verifiable by science is real, vs the pre 17th century atheist who believes only that which can be experienced via our 5 seances are real? Am I missing something here?PaulSacramento wrote:The modern atheist is someone that believes this is all there is and there is nothing else.
That only what is observable or verifiable by science is "real".
That type of atheist didn't exist till about the 19th century,perhaps 17th.
Before that they were agnostic or simply the atheist type that believed that only what we can see with our 5 senses was real.
Ken
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
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24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
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Re: Alright, i got a good question.
My brother ... you are absolutely the King of low hanging fruit !So, the difference is that a modern atheist who believes only that which is observable and verifiable by science, and an atheist who conducts seances, is pretty obvious.
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Re: Alright, i got a good question.
Being vertically challenged, I can only reach the low hanging fruit.EssentialSacrifice wrote:My brother ... you are absolutely the King of low hanging fruit !So, the difference is that a modern atheist who believes only that which is observable and verifiable by science, and an atheist who conducts seances, is pretty obvious.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
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St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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Re: Alright, i got a good question.
Most probably, they considered Aristotle as foundational to their thinking.JurassicTerrorist wrote:Before the theory of evolution and big bang was made, what did athiests believe in?
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Re: Alright, i got a good question.
They believed in many things per personal preference such as:JurassicTerrorist wrote:Before the theory of evolution and big bang was made, what did athiests believe in?
Nothing
Central Planning
Government as the answer for all ills
Social Conflict Theories
Science
Not the least concerned about God and simply did not care how the universe came into being
Past trauma, or abuse erased belief in God cementing no belief in God (thus pick one of the above reasons)
Death of a loved one erased belief in God cementing no belief in God
Evil and man's inhumanity to man in the world seen and/or experienced erased belief in God cementing no belief in God
Unanswered questions erased belief in God cementing no belief in God
Stupid people erased belief in God cementing no belief in God
Detrimental actions by some professing misguided Christian or some other faith and measuring God's existence by those actions erased belief in God cementing no belief in God
Bias learned in academia cementing no belief in God
Just plain lazy cementing no belief in God
Etc and etc...
These are a few things atheist believed in before the big bang theory came in vogue. However, in the first 360 years of the Christianity, Christians were called atheist and they believed in God!
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Re: Alright, i got a good question.
According to my understanding, prior to the Big Bang theory, they had the "Steady State theory" which says the Universe had no beginning nor end.JurassicTerrorist wrote:Before the theory of evolution and big bang was made, what did athiests believe in?
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"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence".
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Makes sense, however what about earth? Did earth always exist according to that theory? Were humans created, or did they just always exist?Kenny wrote:According to my understanding, prior to the Big Bang theory, they had the "Steady State theory" which says the Universe had no beginning nor end.JurassicTerrorist wrote:Before the theory of evolution and big bang was made, what did athiests believe in?
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Re: Alright, i got a good question.
The Steady State Theory was first formulated by Sir James Jeans around 1920 and revised in 1948 by Hermann Bondi, Thomas Gold, and Fred Hoyle. It has been discredited. Before 1920's there was a wide array of reasons and motivational causes of those reasons.Kenny wrote:According to my understanding, prior to the Big Bang theory, they had the "Steady State theory" which says the Universe had no beginning nor end.JurassicTerrorist wrote:Before the theory of evolution and big bang was made, what did athiests believe in?
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