How do you view heaven?

Hortator · Post by **Hortator** » Fri Aug 14, 2015 3:40 pm

Rich did an essay on this very thing,

"The new earth will have no sea
There will be no Sun or moon
Gravity will be absent or greatly reduced
No more death, suffering, pain
Believers will receive a new body"

http://www.godandscience.org/doctrine/heaven.html

I'm most interested to see my new body in a mirror. If those exist in heaven, if people are still superficial to make them, or if they CAN make mirrors in heaven, since there's no sea and thus no sand.

I'll just look forward to it patiently =)

stuartcr · Post by **stuartcr** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:46 am

Disciplical wrote:People's interpretation of heaven tend to vary greatly. As far as I am aware, there is no solid consensus on what heaven could be like. The Bible doesn't seem to be all that forthcoming with information regarding our next life. What do you picture when you think of heaven?

Personally, I would want a world similar to this one, without sin and pain. Imagine experiencing all the joys of life without any negatives. I'd like to a place to gain infinite knowledge and wisdom and understanding. I've always thought I'd love to learn all the earth's many languages - shame I'd need many lifetimes to do it! A place where family and friends exist together free from pain and the inevitability of death and suffering, and a place where one can explore and continue learning and experiencing. I imagine this sounds whimsical but this would be an ideal existence.

What knowledge do we have of heaven and how do you interpret it?

I don't think anyone has any real knowledge of heaven.

Bluejay4 · Post by **Bluejay4** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:42 pm

So people who die right now go to a temporary heaven?

abelcainsbrother · Post by **abelcainsbrother** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:08 pm

Bluejay4 wrote:So people who die right now go to a temporary heaven?

No because it will be brought here to earth after the earth is destroyed by fire first then restored.I don't see how it could be temporary because it is just brought here.

Storyteller · Post by **Storyteller** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:17 am

Bluejay4 wrote:So people who die right now go to a temporary heaven?

Am thinking on the hoof here, so bear with me.

I am still figuring out what my thoughts are on Heaven etc but I think when we die, wherever we go could be immediate. I don`t think time exists apart from here, on earth so it`s possible for all that have died before to already be in Heaven. Heaven and God are in eternity, apart from time.
Mind you, that doesn`t really fit with the new heaven being here on earth.

Post by **Philip** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:19 pm

Heaven is the abode of God. Scripture teaches that the PERMANENT Heaven will be a merging of a restored/resurrected earth the Heaven, just as God restores us to new life, cleansing us of corruption.

Read Revelation 21. "Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,”[a] for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”

" And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God. 11 It shone with the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. 12 It had a great, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel. 13 There were three gates on the east, three on the north, three on the south and three on the west. 14 The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

15 The angel who talked with me had a measuring rod of gold to measure the city, its gates and its walls. 16 The city was laid out like a square, as long as it was wide."

RickD · Post by **RickD** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:21 pm

How do you view heaven?

With sin stained glasses.

Storyteller · Post by **Storyteller** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:30 pm

RickD wrote:
How do you view heaven?
With sin stained glasses.

That is THE most PERFECT response

RickD · Post by **RickD** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:32 pm

Storyteller wrote:
RickD wrote:
How do you view heaven?
With sin stained glasses.
That is THE most PERFECT response

Even a broken clock is right twice a day!

Storyteller · Post by **Storyteller** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:34 pm

RickD wrote:
Storyteller wrote:
RickD wrote:
How do you view heaven?
With sin stained glasses.
That is THE most PERFECT response
Even a broken clock is right twice a day!

Not if its a 24 hour one.

RickD · Post by **RickD** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:35 pm

Storyteller wrote:
RickD wrote:
Storyteller wrote:
RickD wrote:
How do you view heaven?
With sin stained glasses.
That is THE most PERFECT response
Even a broken clock is right twice a day!
Not if its a 24 hour one.

Ok...even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.

Storyteller · Post by **Storyteller** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:38 pm

Or an acorn.

Why do they forget where they put them? Not exactly a good example for evolution... "ooo I know, stash some nuts away for winter then promptly forget where"

EssentialSacrifice · Post by **EssentialSacrifice** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:49 pm

When I was very young there was a Disney movie Peter Pan with this song that always, as a child, made me feel like it was close to heaven, closer than us ... and touches me still

I know, silly ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7Ukjt9CeuY

RickD · Post by **RickD** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 2:41 pm

EssentialSacrifice wrote:When I was very young there was a Disney movie Peter Pan with this song that always, as a child, made me feel like it was close to heaven, closer than us ... and touches me still I know, silly ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7Ukjt9CeuY

Um...That song was from 1973. You weren't "very young" in 1973.

EssentialSacrifice · Post by **EssentialSacrifice** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:21 pm

I see ... so not only do you decide what is and isn't young in my mind, (2/3rds of a lifetime ago) you completely miss the point that some 40 years later I still have the same great feeling from the song ... the point of the post ...

I should just keep this stuff to myself, huh ?

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