I choose to uphold Scripture also (otherwise I would not have quoted from Peter), so I don't believe it is an issue of one not believing Scripture. While I do not wish to debate, I wish to defend since you have now attacked my position. If you are willing to let me end on defending my position (and I'll try not to go on the offensive against yours), then no further response should be needed. I do think Christians should be aware to all the Scriptural facts.Jbuza wrote:Genesis 6
17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.
19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered. 20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered. 21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man: 22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died. 23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.
If what you say is true than this is not. I choose to beleive the Word of God.
Firstly, everywhere erets ("earth") is translated, as I learnt in my Hebrew class, it also means "land". Thus, your Genesis 6 passage would be better read as follows:
- Genesis 6
17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the land, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the land shall die.
19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the land; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered. 20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered. 21 And all flesh died that moved upon the land, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the land, and every man: 22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died. 23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the land: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.
- Gen 8:5 And the water decreased steadily until the tenth month; in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, the tops of the mountains became visible.
Gen 8:6 Then it came about at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made;
Gen 8:7 and he sent out a raven, and it flew here and there until the water was dried up from the earth.
Gen 8:8 Then he sent out a dove from him, to see if the water was abated from the face of the land;
Gen 8:9 but the dove found no resting place for the sole of her foot, so she returned to him into the ark; for the water was on the surface of all the earth. Then he put out his hand and took her, and brought her into the ark to himself.
I feel this defends my position adequately. And I am aware of other passages that can be brought forward, and which I am prepared to explain if necessary, but I will end here unless further challenges are made.
Kurieuo
), and I had no qualms with him becoming a moderator. As long as people are aware of the different positions, which was my intention here, and we can agree on more important doctrines surrounding Christ, then that is enough for me.
