PaulSacramento wrote:All of those were the quotes I posted when I showed that those comments that I have bolded and underlined are incorrect.
The use of dogma was NOT ironic.
Scientists DO make dogmatic claims.
No apology will be forthcoming, but something else might.
You know, I have been around condescension and bullying all my life. Pint size female, a good target. "Young lady" you call me. I wouldnt have much expected it here, but, there is is. More threats, more bullying, more condescension. A whiff of sexism.
I find the use of the word "dogma" coming from the religious and applied to science to be ironic. You dont; fine. That doesnt make you right and me wrong, or vice versa. Why are you even bringing that in now?
The original response from me to you was about your double standards of who can pick out a word and who cant.
You are dodging that, still.
I at no time made any claim that scientists do not make dogmatic statements.
You have not risen to the challenge to provide even one example.
But sure, it can happen. Why on earth are you claiming that we are even disagreeing on that point?
You decided to make two statements ( that science isn't dogmatic and that scientists don't make dogmatic ( incontrovertibly true) statements
I nowhere claimed that scientist dont make dogmatic statements. You made that up.
Science is not dogmatic. People often are. If you want to say I stated science is not dogmatic, then there is is. I said it again. Civilized people could discuss that without falsehoods and threats.
In the words below, I twice accept that some people may do more or less anything, so sure, some scientists may be dogmatic.
Nowhere is there a denial of that;; you simply made that up.
Sure you can cut and paste quotes, there are lots of quotes. Just none that say what you claim. They say the opposite.
Science doesnt do "dogma", tho those with dogmatosis may.
how many times have I personally heard
scientists say some version of "incontrovertibly true"?
Probably never.
I didnt dispute that there are people who will do most anything, no doubt including scientists who are morally weak, communist, or simply insane; some may even have dogmatosis. As noted.
It sure isnt the way I am accustomed to them talking, and it is so contrary
the discipline of scientific thinking, I am disinclined to think you can name an exception.
Of course, as in all things, you find some individuals who've
lost a wheel along the way.