Both neanderthals and humans mated with each other.What does your creation interpretation say?

[abelcainsbrother]

Reading through these comments we are getting some of the science about neanderthals and humans and I do think this is important,but what does God word say?How do we explain these things from a biblical perspective? Remember science is looking at everything from an evolution view point interpreting the science from that scientific point of view but we have God's word. Here are some possible biblical answers to consider.

I'm not saying I agree with these yet I'm just trying to get us to think biblically.

Neanderthals were created by God before God created man and Satan knew about their DNA and was tinkering with life God created,he wanted to be able to create life like God and he tried to but in the end could not create life but could only manipulate DNA. If fallen angels did indeed transform enough to mate with human women in Genesis 6 and have off-spring called giants? Then Satan could've done it long before God created man.
And the DNA is from fallen angels in both neanderthals and humans. Genesis 6 I think shows us Satan knows about DNA and learned how to manipulate it not in just humans and neanderthals but any life including hominids who seem to share DNA also.We must remember that biblically humans were created by God in Genesis 1 and the human race came from them and this interpretation makes it possible.

Another possibility is that neanderthals came from Cain's bloodline after God changed Cain,put a mark on him so that humans would not act on revenge for Abel's death and Neanderthal's died in Noah's flood,but humans were on the ark and so survived. The problem though with this interpretation though seems to be timing,it does'nt seem to line up considering how old neanderthals are according to science.

What say you?

[Kurieuo]

I say it sounds nutty ACB.

[RickD]

Reading through these comments we are getting some of the science about neanderthals and humans and I do think this is important,but what does God word say?How do we explain these things from a biblical perspective? Remember science is looking at everything from an evolution view point interpreting the science from that scientific point of view but we have God's word. Here are some possible biblical answers to consider.

I'm not saying I agree with these yet I'm just trying to get us to think biblically.

Neanderthals were created by God before God created man and Satan knew about their DNA and was tinkering with life God created,he wanted to be able to create life like God and he tried to but in the end could not create life but could only manipulate DNA. If fallen angels did indeed transform enough to mate with human women in Genesis 6 and have off-spring called giants? Then Satan could've done it long before God created man.
And the DNA is from fallen angels in both neanderthals and humans. Genesis 6 I think shows us Satan knows about DNA and learned how to manipulate it not in just humans and neanderthals but any life including hominids who seem to share DNA also.We must remember that biblically humans were created by God in Genesis 1 and the human race came from them and this interpretation makes it possible.

Another possibility is that neanderthals came from Cain's bloodline after God changed Cain,put a mark on him so that humans would not act on revenge for Abel's death and Neanderthal's died in Noah's flood,but humans were on the ark and so survived. The problem though with this interpretation though seems to be timing,it does'nt seem to line up considering how old neanderthals are according to science.

What say you?

I think you need to test your water. May be too much fluoride getting to your brain.

[abelcainsbrother]

I say it sounds nutty ACB.

I was just giving some possibilities from a biblical perspective. I mean I could flesh it out more using scripture but I'm assuming ya'll know enough to understand what I'm getting at biblically. Anyway,it seems not that many want to come up with an answer for this biblically.

[Kurieuo]

I thought my previous response sufficient. A biblical answer to what exactly?

[swordfish7]

The notion that evolutionists don't twist the evidence to fit their theory is a boldface lie! Every day they make up some cockamamie story to explain some phenomena, where they never allow the possibility that God exists and has caused an impact on creation. The supposed Neanderthals were actually pre-flood people who lived to 1000 years of age. Their skulls were thicker due to their age, which is theorized to happen by doctors.

[abelcainsbrother]

The notion that evolutionists don't twist the evidence to fit their theory is a boldface lie! Every day they make up some cockamamie story to explain some phenomena, where they never allow the possibility that God exists and has caused an impact on creation. The supposed Neanderthals were actually pre-flood people who lived to 1000 years of age. Their skulls were thicker due to their age, which is theorized to happen by doctors.

I agree evolutionists twist the evidence. However I'm not sure I believe Neanderthal's were pre-Noah's flood people. I've heard other biblical ideas that are interesting like Neanderthal's perhaps being the descendants of Cain's race which is interesting.Or that they lived in a former world and were not man but part of a pre-Adamite race of beings that lived in a former world. The thing is though is how to mesh this with science claiming Neanderthal's and humans mated. Perhaps Lucifer learned how to manipulate DNA in the former world and did so in the former world by trying to create his own life but failed at being able to create his own life but he learned about DNA and how to manipulate it. He wanted to be like the most high God and manipulated DNA in this world too,so that it makes it look like they mated.

[RickD]

The notion that evolutionists don't twist the evidence to fit their theory is a boldface lie! Every day they make up some cockamamie story to explain some phenomena, where they never allow the possibility that God exists and has caused an impact on creation. The supposed Neanderthals were actually pre-flood people who lived to 1000 years of age. Their skulls were thicker due to their age, which is theorized to happen by doctors.

What about theistic evolutionists? Do they "never allow the possibility that God exists"?

Are all evolutionists really part of a huge conspiracy to omit God from being a possibility?
Sounds like someone's been drinking some Ken Ham Kool-Aid.

[crochet1949]

It's not really a "huge conspiracy" to omit God from being a possibility -- it Is an attempt to compromise / blend together that which doesn't really 'blend' all that well.

And there Are those who feel that Anything is better than giving 'God' any place in getting this world and all that is in it Here.

[abelcainsbrother]

It's not really a "huge conspiracy" to omit God from being a possibility -- it Is an attempt to compromise / blend together that which doesn't really 'blend' all that well.

And there Are those who feel that Anything is better than giving 'God' any place in getting this world and all that is in it Here.

Well we cannot all be right as we have different interpretations when it comes to creation and it should not be an issue that divides us as Christians,but we cannot all be right. Only one is right and so I think it is important to consider each and to question the way we interpret the bible and not out of bias for one or another but to honestly consider we could be wrong in our interpretation when it comes to creation. I feel like I have done this. Me myself could not accept a creation theory that accepts evolution based on the evidence behind it. But even though I like to discuss and talk and debate about creation I will not reject a theistic evolutionist as a Christian. I just think they are wrong when it comes to creation. Believe it or not theistic evolutionist can make a convincing case for how evolution fits into the bible,but to me I'd reject evolution even if I was not a Christian and was an atheist. Still,I will not reject those who accept it.

[abelcainsbrother]

In this thread I have brought up some unusual ideas about Satan trying to create his own life but failing to be able to create his own life,but he can copy or duplicate( clone) some of the life God created and he can manipulate DNA in life too and produce half breeds like in Genesis 6.,just like man can do also today.

But here are some links to read if you would like to understand why this is believed from a biblical perspective.

http://www.tribulationperiod.com/pu/pro ... e148d.html

http://www.tribulationperiod.com/pu/pro ... e148e.html

[swordfish7]

It is more like this. Imagine that you and your spouse (imagine one if you don't have one) escape from world disaster and have children to restart the human population of the world. If someone was able to find the DNA of the old dead people prior to the disaster and compare that DNA with your progeny, would the researchers be able to say that the two mated together? How would they know this? What else would they notice? They would find similar strands of pieces of DNA and could make the same conclusion. Evolutionists paint their own story of what they want to believe and pass that off as science. They are the BEST fiction writers in the world!

[swordfish7]

RickD, yes I have read some of Ken Ham's literature (and DVDs) and it is very good if you will objectively hear it. I find many Christians want to be "respectable" so they renounce YEC. I am more interested in being true to science and to the scriptures.

[RickD]

RickD, yes I have read some of Ken Ham's literature (and DVDs) and it is very good if you will objectively hear it. I find many Christians want to be "respectable" so they renounce YEC. I am more interested in being true to science and to the scriptures.

I used to believe Ken Ham. Until I looked at it more objectively. It was then that I realized that his science is extremely flawed, and his interpretation of scripture is too dogmatic, and not necessary.

I renounced YEC because scientifically, it's less viable than a flat earth. And scripturally, YEC is lacking too.

It had nothing to do with being respectable.

But I understand that changing the mind of a YEC about creation, is like changing the mind of an atheist about the existence of God. Logic doesn't usually work, and it only comes down to the person being open to change something that they feel their very existence relies upon.

[Kurieuo]

RickD, yes I have read some of Ken Ham's literature (and DVDs) and it is very good if you will objectively hear it. I find many Christians want to be "respectable" so they renounce YEC. I am more interested in being true to science and to the scriptures.

Yes, well according to Ken Ham I don't have any faith in Christ because I don't accept God created in six 24-hour days.