How God can create through evolution:

[RickD]

hugh --
Actually God Didn't create the world just like it is Now -- mistake on my part. There was a world-wide flood that changed the landscape a great deal. Before that the land was relatively flat compared to now with the Grand Canyon, etc. Back in Genesis 7: 19 and 20. "And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth, and all the high hills under the whole heaven were covered. The waters prevailed fifteen cubits upward, and the mountains were covered." vs 11 "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life , in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up , and the windows of heaven were opened. "

What evidence do you have of a worldwide flood?

[crochet1949]

RickD

Let's take a look at Genesis 7: 19 - 20 "And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth, and all the high hills under the whole heaven were covered, The waters prevailed fifteen cubits upward, and the mountains were covered."

[RickD]

RickD

Let's take a look at Genesis 7: 19 - 20 "And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth, and all the high hills under the whole heaven were covered, The waters prevailed fifteen cubits upward, and the mountains were covered."

I asked what evidence you have for a worldwide flood? We've already established that your interpretation of Genesis, regarding the flood, differs from mine. I'm talking about empirical evidence.

[crochet1949]

Then you also , apparently, don't accept Biblical verses for evidence of the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ, either.

However -- will take a moment to see what I can find in Google about the world-wide flood.

[RickD]

Then you also , apparently, don't accept Biblical verses for evidence of the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ, either.

However -- will take a moment to see what I can find in Google about the world-wide flood.

Here we go.

The old, "if you don't agree with my young earth interpretation, you don't believe in the atonement work of Christ" fallacy.

I accept scripture that talks about the creation account and Noah's flood. I don't accept YOUR INTERPRETATION of those accounts. Neither your interpretation nor mine, is scripture itself.

[abelcainsbrother]

Then you also , apparently, don't accept Biblical verses for evidence of the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ, either.

However -- will take a moment to see what I can find in Google about the world-wide flood.

Don't google and find evidence for a world wide flood from YEC's. Gap Theorists teach a world wide flood too but it is much,much more scientific than the way YEC's have taught a world wide flood. It won't prove it but it makes much more sense scientifically than the way YEC's have taught a world wide flood. No offense but this is one reason so many people doubt a world wide flood. And I think why some came up with a localized flood in order to defend it. It is because Noah's flood is so toxic because of the way YEC's have taught it happened. It matters how you teach it happened.Just some advice.

[crochet1949]

Okay -- http://www.unmaskingevoluition.com/18 - flood
A very interesting article

abcnews.go.com/Technology/evidence-suggests-biblical-great flood-noah's-tim
Evidence Noah's Biblical Flood Happened says Robert Ballard.

[RickD]

Okay -- http://www.unmaskingevoluition.com/18 - flood
A very interesting article

abcnews.go.com/Technology/evidence-suggests-biblical-great flood-noah's-tim
Evidence Noah's Biblical Flood Happened says Robert Ballard.

Linkie no workie.

[crochet1949]

RickD.

I think you can read English just as well as I can. That's what Genesis 7 Is -- plain English --- so what's this 'my interpretation vs Your interpretation. The verses say what they Say.

[crochet1949]

Give me a minute to try something.

[RickD]

Let's try to stick to the topic. This is not The "Gap proselytizing" thread.

Crochet is already trying to understand about evolution. She doesn't need Gap thrown in.

[abelcainsbrother]

Let's try to stick to the topic. This is not The "Gap proselytizing" thread.

Crochet is already trying to understand about evolution. She doesn't need Gap thrown in.

Noah's flood was brought up but there are much better ways to teach a world wide flood happened. That is all.

[RickD]

RickD.

I think you can read English just as well as I can. That's what Genesis 7 Is -- plain English --- so what's this 'my interpretation vs Your interpretation. The verses say what they Say.

Crochet,

That's part of the issue. The original text wasn't written in English. Ancient Hebrew has far less words than our modern English. Some words have multiple literal meanings. Here's a link from the home site, about why the flood must be local. I'm not trying to convince you to change your belief. I'm just trying to show you the difference in interpretations. And how a different interpretation is still a literal interpretation.
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetic ... flood.html

But now we're getting off topic. If you want to continue talking about this, I can move the relevant posts to a new topic.

[RickD]

Let's try to stick to the topic. This is not The "Gap proselytizing" thread.

Crochet is already trying to understand about evolution. She doesn't need Gap thrown in.

Noah's flood was brought up but there are much better ways to teach a world wide flood happened. That is all.

We're already veering off topic. Let's not make it worse.

[crochet1949]

I had to type in /// Scientific Evidence for a World Wide Flood
Evidence for a Global Flood

Two very good articles.

I was asked for non-Biblical proof of a global flood. It's There. In plain secular English.