Is Christianity Intolerant?
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Re: Is Christianity Intolerant?
Good find Nessa.
The article makes great points. Of course Christians are/should be tolerant, in the historical meaning of tolerance.
It's kinda like atheism. The definition was changed from, "a belief that God/gods doesn't exist". To "lack of belief in God/gods".
Or even changing the definition of marriage, then calling Christians homophobes because we don't believe in marriage equality.
It's a pretty dishonest way to go about life.
And, some of the most intolerant people, are the ones demanding tolerance from others.
The article makes great points. Of course Christians are/should be tolerant, in the historical meaning of tolerance.
It's kinda like atheism. The definition was changed from, "a belief that God/gods doesn't exist". To "lack of belief in God/gods".
Or even changing the definition of marriage, then calling Christians homophobes because we don't believe in marriage equality.
It's a pretty dishonest way to go about life.
And, some of the most intolerant people, are the ones demanding tolerance from others.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
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24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
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Re: Is Christianity Intolerant?
This showed up in my facebook feed today posted by a Christian.
Needless to say, some people werent too happy about it at all.
If the guy still said "Sorry, you are not a woman or child" would that be considered intolerant?
Needless to say, some people werent too happy about it at all.
If the guy still said "Sorry, you are not a woman or child" would that be considered intolerant?
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Re: Is Christianity Intolerant?
It is political correctness.
Hebrews 12:2-3 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross,despising the shame,and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
2nd Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,lest the light of this glorious gospel of Christ,who is the image of God,should shine unto them.
2nd Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,lest the light of this glorious gospel of Christ,who is the image of God,should shine unto them.
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Re: Is Christianity Intolerant?
But the insinuation that is there is that the guy is not considered a woman.
Is that showing intolerance?
Is that showing intolerance?
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Re: Is Christianity Intolerant?
Christianity is intolerant in that Christ decisively says that this is the Truth and that most people are wrong and never going to find the way to God. It is not violent intolerance, but passively so out of love because another's heart must freely respond and can't be manipulated or coerced.
"Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved." (Romans 10:13)
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Re: Is Christianity Intolerant?
Yeah,like maybe in other religions you can force others to accept your religion but Christians cannot force anybody to be saved because it requires the person's faith theirself to be saved,so that if we were to force someone it is not their faith.
Hebrews 12:2-3 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross,despising the shame,and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
2nd Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,lest the light of this glorious gospel of Christ,who is the image of God,should shine unto them.
2nd Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,lest the light of this glorious gospel of Christ,who is the image of God,should shine unto them.
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Re: Is Christianity Intolerant?
No,it is political correctness.You're feeling the pressure of political correctness.Nessa wrote:But the insinuation that is there is that the guy is not considered a woman.
Is that showing intolerance?
Hebrews 12:2-3 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross,despising the shame,and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
2nd Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,lest the light of this glorious gospel of Christ,who is the image of God,should shine unto them.
2nd Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,lest the light of this glorious gospel of Christ,who is the image of God,should shine unto them.
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Re: Is Christianity Intolerant?
What I'm trying to get at is that the trans would quite likely see it as intolerant if they are still treated by Christians according to the gender they were born with.abelcainsbrother wrote:No,it is political correctness.You're feeling the pressure of political correctness.Nessa wrote:But the insinuation that is there is that the guy is not considered a woman.
Is that showing intolerance?
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Re: Is Christianity Intolerant?
I'm not implying that you should be mean to them or anything but you're just feeling the pressure of political correctness because it is a hot-butten political issue now.People use political correctness to try to make you just shut-up and accept their wacky politics.Nessa wrote:What I'm trying to get at is that the trans would quite likely see it as intolerant if they are still treated by Christians according to the gender they were born with.abelcainsbrother wrote:No,it is political correctness.You're feeling the pressure of political correctness.Nessa wrote:But the insinuation that is there is that the guy is not considered a woman.
Is that showing intolerance?
Hebrews 12:2-3 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross,despising the shame,and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
2nd Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,lest the light of this glorious gospel of Christ,who is the image of God,should shine unto them.
2nd Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,lest the light of this glorious gospel of Christ,who is the image of God,should shine unto them.
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Re: Is Christianity Intolerant?
Fact is there is not very many trans out there and the ones that are all have a presence about them. That is why Cait TV series is a flop.
Not to long ago the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual III (DSM-III in 1980) stated such conditions were mental disorders.
Now, due solely to politics and gaining a sympathy vote for politicians and to raise big bucks for politicians and political parties to use to push through a radical left wing agenda. Trans is -kool- and so is a host of previously sexual mental disorders now legitimatized as normal.
It is not about tolerance, but about exploiting people to gain political power and reorder society into a utopia of humanism. So now, let's look really hard at what humanism has accomplished...
Metal detectors and security guards in school
Break down of family and marriages
Single mothers, broken homes, secure structure in the home on rapid decline
More extremely Self centered youth becoming adults
Decreasing ability for actual face to face human interaction
Black lives matter and a host of other destructive agents for social change protest
Racism back on the rise after its near demise
Increase of hate
Using tolerance as the means to justify intolerance, theft by redistribution, and changing wrong into rights
Loss of jobs, income, (have you notice the stores closing and business leaving the country lately?)
Production of fear - one spin crisis after another such as global warming etc, white privilege, USA Bad evil, Christians narrow minded bigots etc and etc with this hate increases to justify intolerance against targeted scapegoat groups, gun owners, middle class, etc,,
Hope now disappearing, country and cities becoming a mess
Brainwashing and slogan reasoning taught as higher form of reason
Corruption in political parties rampant
Lies passed of as truth - (if you like your doctor you can your doctor, Iran Nuke deal goood!)
Murder of unborn babies under the disguise of choice (look at the founder of Planned parenthood agenda)
etc and etc..
Basically humanism does not offer anything other than empty words, loss of human dignity and worth disguised as grand progress toward some sort of egalitarian Utopian fantasy.
Folks within humanity is a thing called a sin nature - trans have that as well too so do homosexuals and all human beings Even humanism proves human sin nature exist too.
Listen up. All need Jesus and all need to come to their senses and stop loving their sin nature more than one who died to set them free from it - not help them embrace it.
1Co 6:9-11, Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God. NASB
Working in the field of Criminal Justice as part working with register sex offenders has taught me not to condone such sexual sins as these sex offender preps inflicted upon victims. Many of these former offenders are basically gendered messed up and seek a workaround to get their ways.
So how tolerant are any of you towards child rapist? So much for the law of tolerance then...
Fact is, the whole human race has a sin nature. Transgender possessed people have the same nature and to hide ones head in the sand and play pretend tolerance as expression of love is not love at all.
God came to save sinners. To change a once accepted diagnosis of a very well defined mental disorder into a a person who has more rights than others have thus creating a protected class is beyond stupid. Jesus Christ died upon a cross to save sinners and change them to be what Romans 8:29 mentions not for folks to remain as they are, enslaved to justify their personal sin nature.
It is an intolerant crime to exploit people in order to solidify political advantages and total control. The Lord God will not force anyone to change, he even turns people over to their own debased minds and lets them do those things not fitting. If one does not want the Lord God, then people create a god in their own image to remain lost in his or her sin nature. Sadly, we see this happening now in he modern western church.
Acts 17:30, "Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent." NASB
Luke 24:45-47, "Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, 46 and He said to them, "Thus it is written, that the Christ would suffer and rise again from the dead the third day, 24:47 and that repentance for forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in His name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem."
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Not to long ago the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual III (DSM-III in 1980) stated such conditions were mental disorders.
Now, due solely to politics and gaining a sympathy vote for politicians and to raise big bucks for politicians and political parties to use to push through a radical left wing agenda. Trans is -kool- and so is a host of previously sexual mental disorders now legitimatized as normal.
It is not about tolerance, but about exploiting people to gain political power and reorder society into a utopia of humanism. So now, let's look really hard at what humanism has accomplished...
Metal detectors and security guards in school
Break down of family and marriages
Single mothers, broken homes, secure structure in the home on rapid decline
More extremely Self centered youth becoming adults
Decreasing ability for actual face to face human interaction
Black lives matter and a host of other destructive agents for social change protest
Racism back on the rise after its near demise
Increase of hate
Using tolerance as the means to justify intolerance, theft by redistribution, and changing wrong into rights
Loss of jobs, income, (have you notice the stores closing and business leaving the country lately?)
Production of fear - one spin crisis after another such as global warming etc, white privilege, USA Bad evil, Christians narrow minded bigots etc and etc with this hate increases to justify intolerance against targeted scapegoat groups, gun owners, middle class, etc,,
Hope now disappearing, country and cities becoming a mess
Brainwashing and slogan reasoning taught as higher form of reason
Corruption in political parties rampant
Lies passed of as truth - (if you like your doctor you can your doctor, Iran Nuke deal goood!)
Murder of unborn babies under the disguise of choice (look at the founder of Planned parenthood agenda)
etc and etc..
Basically humanism does not offer anything other than empty words, loss of human dignity and worth disguised as grand progress toward some sort of egalitarian Utopian fantasy.
Folks within humanity is a thing called a sin nature - trans have that as well too so do homosexuals and all human beings Even humanism proves human sin nature exist too.
Listen up. All need Jesus and all need to come to their senses and stop loving their sin nature more than one who died to set them free from it - not help them embrace it.
1Co 6:9-11, Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God. NASB
Working in the field of Criminal Justice as part working with register sex offenders has taught me not to condone such sexual sins as these sex offender preps inflicted upon victims. Many of these former offenders are basically gendered messed up and seek a workaround to get their ways.
So how tolerant are any of you towards child rapist? So much for the law of tolerance then...
Fact is, the whole human race has a sin nature. Transgender possessed people have the same nature and to hide ones head in the sand and play pretend tolerance as expression of love is not love at all.
God came to save sinners. To change a once accepted diagnosis of a very well defined mental disorder into a a person who has more rights than others have thus creating a protected class is beyond stupid. Jesus Christ died upon a cross to save sinners and change them to be what Romans 8:29 mentions not for folks to remain as they are, enslaved to justify their personal sin nature.
It is an intolerant crime to exploit people in order to solidify political advantages and total control. The Lord God will not force anyone to change, he even turns people over to their own debased minds and lets them do those things not fitting. If one does not want the Lord God, then people create a god in their own image to remain lost in his or her sin nature. Sadly, we see this happening now in he modern western church.
Acts 17:30, "Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent." NASB
Luke 24:45-47, "Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, 46 and He said to them, "Thus it is written, that the Christ would suffer and rise again from the dead the third day, 24:47 and that repentance for forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in His name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem."
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Re: Is Christianity Intolerant?
I believe the teachings of some churches are intolerant because they rely on philosophy of man and not the teachings of Christ when it comes to defining morality and in fact there are many denominations throughout Christianity that are truly intolerant of Christianity itself, but that is simply mimicking Godless society or worldism, where morality is a collection of subjective and not objective truths, where some are hostile and some teachings are similar to the teachings of Christ. So certainly, aspects of the some parts of Christianity are intolerant.
As for Christ, if He were alive in the flesh today, He would probably be considered the most intolerant person who ever lived because He was intolerant of all sin. And the only way to be truly intolerant of sin; (to make the claim certain things are right and wrong, good and evil), without being a hypocrite, is if (a) that person cannot sin or is (b) that person is sinless. Christ was both.
There is no intolerance in Christ because there is no arrogance in truth and Christ claims to tell the truth and He claims be the Truth.
As for Christ, if He were alive in the flesh today, He would probably be considered the most intolerant person who ever lived because He was intolerant of all sin. And the only way to be truly intolerant of sin; (to make the claim certain things are right and wrong, good and evil), without being a hypocrite, is if (a) that person cannot sin or is (b) that person is sinless. Christ was both.
There is no intolerance in Christ because there is no arrogance in truth and Christ claims to tell the truth and He claims be the Truth.
There are two types of people in our world: those who believe in Christ and those who will.
If Christianity is a man-made religion, then why is its doctrine vehemently against all of man's desires?
Every one that is of the truth hears my voice. Jesus from John 18:37
If Christianity is a man-made religion, then why is its doctrine vehemently against all of man's desires?
Every one that is of the truth hears my voice. Jesus from John 18:37
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Re: Is Christianity Intolerant?
We need to be tolerant of people and their different views, but that doesn't means we agree or condone.
We must be intolerant of what we believe/know to be wrong.
We must be intolerant of what we believe/know to be wrong.
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Re: Is Christianity Intolerant?
How about taking God's Word and, in a loving way, share what God has told us in it. And Then we will hear "that's Your interpretation". And That is putting Us in the place of authority rather than God. So , is Christianity 'intolerant' -- Yes, intolerant of purposeful sinning.
Yes, Jesus Christ tells us that He "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, no man comes to the Father, but by Me." That is very clear.
So - let's get into our Bible / God's Word NOT ours. Find out what He is telling us to do. And Then , be willing to Obey it.
Yes, Jesus Christ tells us that He "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, no man comes to the Father, but by Me." That is very clear.
So - let's get into our Bible / God's Word NOT ours. Find out what He is telling us to do. And Then , be willing to Obey it.