Audie: Oh? You got to pick and choose whether he is the one who sent a world wide flood,
OK, cheap shot - as you should know that the wording does not necessitate a global flood (
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetic ... flood.html)
Audie: Did you pick whether he is the one who arranged for Joseph Smith to find gold books with the book of mormon in them?
Audie, that's just a stupid comment - I would expect more honesty from you. You know that Joseph Smith's teachings are not considered Biblical by Christians, that one cannot even validate any of the geographic locations mentioned. And, as we're speaking of the BIBLE, what the heck does Joseph Smith have to do with it? That's what we around here call a strawman and a dodge!
Audie: Do you consider it to be picking and choosing to say that the Philip who ate New York City does not exist?
Audie, you are failing to have an honest discussion here by just throwing out dumb comments. You're not even being honest with yourself! No wonder you can't see the truth!
Audie: Could you identify what you mean by "spiritual aspects' of said god?
What you said was that IF God exists, that He cannot be the one of Scripture. So, I'm asking you what descriptions of God or His actions FROM SCRIPTURE do you believe negates the possibility that He is God? It's a simple question. Now, an honest answer of different actions you can't fathom God - or ANY God - wouldn't have or do - I can understand that. But, hopefully, you also know that, intellectually, just because you can't or don't understand a person, or truth, or whatever - that doesn't mean 1) it's NOT true and 2) it doesn't mean that this truthful thing doesn't exist. The reality of whatever truth doesn't become false just because you don't like or understand it. So, it's one thing to say, "I don't think a God would do this or that." Fine. But if He DID do this or that, your OPINION as to what YOU think He would or wouldn't have done, or what he is like, doesn't change whatever His reality is.
Let's say you are an orphan and were adopted as a tiny baby. You are now a grown woman. And you accidentally come across someone who knows exactly who your father is, where he is, and what he is like. And upon hearing him described, you realize that your supposed father doesn't think anything like you do, you can't understand what you're told his views are, or how he's described, or his past action make you feel uncomfortable - even though you don't know all of the details about Him - or what misconceptions you might have about him. And so, the more you know, you refuse to seek out your birth father, don't want to know him, and in fact you declare to your friend, "I don't believe my real father even still exists, and I KNOW that person could never be my father - as I think NOTHING like he does. So, Audie, would that mean that this person that you have been informed about could not be your father - as he's not what you would expect? Of course he could very well be your father. But what would make it impossible that he is your father? That some fact or facts that you know can PROVE that he cannot be your father. Say, you discover this man is far to old to credibly have been your father. Perhaps he lived in a foreign land during the time you know your real father had to live in whatever country you were born in. But short of some disproving facts, you know that, unless proven otherwise, that this man could well be your father. And so it is with God.
So, Audie, not based upon your preferences or current understandings, what SPECIFICALLY in the Bible, that describes God, His character, or His actions, do you believe PROVES the God of the Bible cannot exist? Because unless you have something that proves this, yours is simply feelings, preferences and personal opinion. So, give me some FACTS that make the God of the Bible impossible - and base it upon what Scripture says, not opinion, and not some strawman junk about Joseph Smith or other such nonsense!
