So what question did you ask? Can you shut your eyes and exllain the answer?RickD wrote:I asked on a grammar website, and this is the response I got:So Audie,Nick is trying to illustrate what is normally the usage of the perfect tense in order to separate the order of events into chronological order (to show that A happened before B when both happened in the past,) but because the direct object clause is a paraphrase, the paraphrase is not required to be tensed out. Further still, the fact of a sequential adverb such as "then" causes sequence of events to be clear, and the perfect tense remains optional. You only are required to use the perfect tense to sequence events if the surrounding words outside of the verb do not clarify, at which point the verb becomes the determining factor.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
Grammar question
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Am I the only one who hasnt a clue here?
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No. Audie doesn't have clue either.Storyteller wrote:Am I the only one who hasnt a clue here?
John 5:24
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“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
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St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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RickD wrote:No. Audie doesn't have clue either.Storyteller wrote:Am I the only one who hasnt a clue here?
I notice you have not volunteered to explain what that
paragraph had to do with the subjunctive.
If you can (not that you can), then next.....the grim and ominous
adjunct accusative!
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It was a response to my question about the sentence.Audie wrote:RickD wrote:No. Audie doesn't have clue either.Storyteller wrote:Am I the only one who hasnt a clue here?
I notice you have not volunteered to explain what that
paragraph had to do with the subjunctive.
If you can (not that you can), then next.....the grim and ominous
adjunct accusative!
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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So you say, but you did not understand a word of it.RickD wrote:It was a response to my question about the sentence.Audie wrote:RickD wrote:No. Audie doesn't have clue either.Storyteller wrote:Am I the only one who hasnt a clue here?
I notice you have not volunteered to explain what that
paragraph had to do with the subjunctive.
If you can (not that you can), then next.....the grim and ominous
adjunct accusative!
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Do you have one fact showing that I didn't understand a word of it?Audie wrote:So you say, but you did not understand a word of it.RickD wrote:It was a response to my question about the sentence.Audie wrote:RickD wrote:No. Audie doesn't have clue either.Storyteller wrote:Am I the only one who hasnt a clue here?
I notice you have not volunteered to explain what that
paragraph had to do with the subjunctive.
If you can (not that you can), then next.....the grim and ominous
adjunct accusative!
You have yet to provide one fact contrary to me understanding.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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Funny.RickD wrote:Do you have one fact showing that I didn't understand a word of it?Audie wrote:So you say, but you did not understand a word of it.RickD wrote:It was a response to my question about the sentence.Audie wrote:RickD wrote: No. Audie doesn't have clue either.
I notice you have not volunteered to explain what that
paragraph had to do with the subjunctive.
If you can (not that you can), then next.....the grim and ominous
adjunct accusative!
You have yet to provide one fact contrary to me understanding.
BUT- if you knew enough of that lingo to understand it, you would not of needed to ask for help
trying to get out of your subjunctiveatropy. You also might not of wrote a clunker like that " ...to me understanding."
We may have to change your status from grammar cop to meter maid.
Rita.
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Re: Grammar question
Is that grammar gappism?
You have yet to provide one fact...
You have yet to provide one fact...
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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RickD wrote:Is that grammar gappism?
You have yet to provide one fact...
Sure I did. I identified your malaise.
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Nope.Audie wrote:RickD wrote:Is that grammar gappism?
You have yet to provide one fact...
Sure I did. I identified your malaise.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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RickD wrote:Nope.Audie wrote:RickD wrote:Is that grammar gappism?
You have yet to provide one fact...
Sure I did. I identified your malaise.
It is worse than that?? You poor sweet dsrlin', we didnt know!
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What's a dsrlin'?Audie wrote:RickD wrote:Nope.Audie wrote:RickD wrote:Is that grammar gappism?
You have yet to provide one fact...
Sure I did. I identified your malaise.
It is worse than that?? You poor sweet dsrlin', we didnt know!
Did Storyteller svell you her Kvindle?
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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It's like Disraeli. Benjamin Disraeli. He was known to go about dsrlin' .RickD wrote:What's a dsrlin'?Audie wrote:RickD wrote:Nope.Audie wrote:RickD wrote:Is that grammar gappism?
You have yet to provide one fact...
Sure I did. I identified your malaise.
It is worse than that?? You poor sweet dsrlin', we didnt know!
Did Storyteller svell you her Kvindle?
He is dead now.
What does that tell you?
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Audie,
Which of these sentences is correct:
1) My wife asked me if it was cold out last night.
2) My wife asked me if it were cold out last night.
Now why is that different than my sentence?
Which of these sentences is correct:
1) My wife asked me if it was cold out last night.
2) My wife asked me if it were cold out last night.
Now why is that different than my sentence?
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony