Seriously?Storyteller wrote:But atheists lack belief, do they not?
You can do better than that.
Seriously?Storyteller wrote:But atheists lack belief, do they not?
A delusion person believes they lack a belief in something they lack a belief in.Audie wrote:Kurieuo wrote:There is no defeating you Kenny.Kenny wrote:Humm.... This turned out to be a lot easier than I thought.Kurieuo wrote:Of course!Kenny wrote: Free will
What self-proclaimed skeptics don't really seem to understand, is a healthy skepticism also involves being skeptic of one's skepticism. That's all I'll say. If you want to knock my questions up to "making some point" then so be it.
Self -proclaimed believers dont realize that believing also involves believing one's belief
Audie wrote:Seriously?Storyteller wrote:But atheists lack belief, do they not?
You can do better than that.
Kurieuo wrote:A delusion person believes they lack a belief in something they lack a belief in.Audie wrote:Kurieuo wrote:There is no defeating you Kenny.Kenny wrote:Humm.... This turned out to be a lot easier than I thought.Kurieuo wrote: Of course!
What self-proclaimed skeptics don't really seem to understand, is a healthy skepticism also involves being skeptic of one's skepticism. That's all I'll say. If you want to knock my questions up to "making some point" then so be it.
Self -proclaimed believers dont realize that believing also involves believing one's belief
Who's on first?Audie wrote:Kurieuo wrote:A delusion person believes they lack a belief in something they lack a belief in.Audie wrote:Kurieuo wrote:There is no defeating you Kenny.Kenny wrote: Humm.... This turned out to be a lot easier than I thought.
What self-proclaimed skeptics don't really seem to understand, is a healthy skepticism also involves being skeptic of one's skepticism. That's all I'll say. If you want to knock my questions up to "making some point" then so be it.
Self -proclaimed believers dont realize that believing also involves believing one's belief
Similar to the delusion of believing in the external existence of something
that exists only as a belief in your own head?
So I guess it is all settled, actions are determined, or else they are not, or some of the time partially.Byblos wrote:Who's on first?Audie wrote:Kurieuo wrote:A delusion person believes they lack a belief in something they lack a belief in.Audie wrote:Kurieuo wrote: There is no defeating you Kenny.
What self-proclaimed skeptics don't really seem to understand, is a healthy skepticism also involves being skeptic of one's skepticism. That's all I'll say. If you want to knock my questions up to "making some point" then so be it.
Self -proclaimed believers dont realize that believing also involves believing one's belief
Similar to the delusion of believing in the external existence of something
that exists only as a belief in your own head?
It sums up all that is in the thread in a whole lot less words.crochet1949 wrote:Yes, Audie -- That sounds very concise.
Perhaps you feel the way you do about much of the threads here, because you prefer the security of being taught what to believe Audie, that if the fuller body in society believes it you are more secure grounds. Questions like the one this thread poses, and much in philosophy, one must think through and people come to different conclusions normally based upon the philosophies they've adopted in their life. That is scary to those who like firm answers given to them.Audie wrote:It sums up all that is in the thread in a whole lot less words.crochet1949 wrote:Yes, Audie -- That sounds very concise.
You is just pokin' a stick in your own eye, ya yabbie, getting all heavy duty psychobabblealyticalKurieuo wrote:Perhaps you feel the way you do about much of the threads here, because you prefer the security of being taught what to believe Audie, that if the fuller body in society believes it you are more secure grounds. Questions like the one this thread poses, and much in philosophy, one must think through and people come to different conclusions normally based upon the philosophies they've adopted in their life. That is scary to those who like firm answers given to them.Audie wrote:It sums up all that is in the thread in a whole lot less words.crochet1949 wrote:Yes, Audie -- That sounds very concise.
I find it interesting, or sad, that others who like to think for themselves about questions in life, that you write such off as worthless philosophizophers or what-ever word you'd like to coin, and that is too your intellectual detriment.
Then again, Asian students often learn being told what to believe rather than thinking. I read something about China trying to change that in its education system to inspire more independent free thinking students, rather than just accepting what they're told in education as has been the trend to date. You're just meant to sit and learn whatever is dished to you without question.
In Asian culture, generally it is often not even a possibility that one question the teacher or think about other possibilities, based upon what I've read of Asians kids in Western countries with their parents. Second best is just as much losing as first, and to be first, well, you've got to learn the ropes and accept all what your taught by your teachers. This I understood from reading Amy Chua and her The Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother.
Now such may often lead to very bright and educated people, but sadly, one-dimensional people who don't think much for themselves except at being seen as #1 in whatever they put their minds to, such is better for some borg-like communism than some free-thinking rationally independent person the Western ideal craves.
If you're feeling here I'm poking a stick at you, then yes I am because I felt, always feel you poking yours around us who you seem to deem as some lower rung of intellectual people. Don't like it, don't start. Want to continue with gloves on, then I'll spar with you back.