What am "I"? Who am "I"?
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What am "I"? Who am "I"?
No, this isn't a "guess who" game, although in a way I suppose it is.
Who is this person who is "our self" that we refer to as "I"? What am I?
Is this "I" simply a large clump of cells which is our physical body, our thoughts merely atoms bouncing or energy buzzing around in a certain arrangement? If this is what I am, how can a clump of cells apart of some mechanical process have intentions to be this way or that -- how can such be a who?
Who is this self, this I, this person, who appears to supervene upon our body?
What is this ego that is in the driver seat of our bodies, receiving stimulus input of physical experiences and exerting power over the body we're bound to in order to take control, rise above and conquer environmental and physical difficulties?
What am I? Who am I? Two different questions on different sides of the same coin. Some say the who doesn't really exist, others say the what doesn't matter. It seems clear to me that both are important. Thoughts?
Who is this person who is "our self" that we refer to as "I"? What am I?
Is this "I" simply a large clump of cells which is our physical body, our thoughts merely atoms bouncing or energy buzzing around in a certain arrangement? If this is what I am, how can a clump of cells apart of some mechanical process have intentions to be this way or that -- how can such be a who?
Who is this self, this I, this person, who appears to supervene upon our body?
What is this ego that is in the driver seat of our bodies, receiving stimulus input of physical experiences and exerting power over the body we're bound to in order to take control, rise above and conquer environmental and physical difficulties?
What am I? Who am I? Two different questions on different sides of the same coin. Some say the who doesn't really exist, others say the what doesn't matter. It seems clear to me that both are important. Thoughts?
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Re: What am "I"? Who am "I"?
No such thing as thoughts. It's all random chemical reactions.Kurieuo wrote:
Thoughts?
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
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St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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Re: What am "I"? Who am "I"?
Sometimes I think I'm just this huge collection of energy and matter, that I am just another snippet of life, of awareness, that I'm no more than a gentle breeze but then I must be more.
What is this elusive bit of me that makes me, me?
How, and why, do I get to do this?
I get to experience all this, as me.
What am I? Who am I?
I am me. A child of God.
What is this elusive bit of me that makes me, me?
How, and why, do I get to do this?
I get to experience all this, as me.
What am I? Who am I?
I am me. A child of God.
Faith is a knowledge within the heart, beyond the reach of proof - Kahlil Gibran
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Re: What am "I"? Who am "I"?
I am a person who God created via my mother and father. He created me as a special, unique individual. And He created me with the ability to hear God's Word and to respond to That in a positive way. And I Have responded in a positive way -- and so I am Also a child of God.
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Re: What am "I"? Who am "I"?
product of evolution (devil's advocate now)
maybe chimpanzees, dolphins wonder about some things as well.
and wait some time till AI will realize themselves
maybe chimpanzees, dolphins wonder about some things as well.
and wait some time till AI will realize themselves
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
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For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
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Re: What am "I"? Who am "I"?
A chimp is wondering what human is going to teach it something and the dolphin is thinking his next meal of fish.
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Re: What am "I"? Who am "I"?
I think to suggest we are just a clump of cells or atoms bouncing around a certain arrangement is akin to suggesting an automobile is just a pile of steel, glass, and rubber. Everything is more than just it's ingredients.Kurieuo wrote:No, this isn't a "guess who" game, although in a way I suppose it is.
Who is this person who is "our self" that we refer to as "I"? What am I?
Is this "I" simply a large clump of cells which is our physical body, our thoughts merely atoms bouncing or energy buzzing around in a certain arrangement? If this is what I am, how can a clump of cells apart of some mechanical process have intentions to be this way or that -- how can such be a who?
Who is this self, this I, this person, who appears to supervene upon our body?
What is this ego that is in the driver seat of our bodies, receiving stimulus input of physical experiences and exerting power over the body we're bound to in order to take control, rise above and conquer environmental and physical difficulties?
What am I? Who am I? Two different questions on different sides of the same coin. Some say the who doesn't really exist, others say the what doesn't matter. It seems clear to me that both are important. Thoughts?
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Re: What am "I"? Who am "I"?
Did Kenny just unknowingly admit that there is a "purpose" to us, just like automobiles have a purpose?Kenny wrote:I think to suggest we are just a clump of cells or atoms bouncing around a certain arrangement is akin to suggesting an automobile is just a pile of steel, glass, and rubber. Everything is more than just it's ingredients.Kurieuo wrote:No, this isn't a "guess who" game, although in a way I suppose it is.
Who is this person who is "our self" that we refer to as "I"? What am I?
Is this "I" simply a large clump of cells which is our physical body, our thoughts merely atoms bouncing or energy buzzing around in a certain arrangement? If this is what I am, how can a clump of cells apart of some mechanical process have intentions to be this way or that -- how can such be a who?
Who is this self, this I, this person, who appears to supervene upon our body?
What is this ego that is in the driver seat of our bodies, receiving stimulus input of physical experiences and exerting power over the body we're bound to in order to take control, rise above and conquer environmental and physical difficulties?
What am I? Who am I? Two different questions on different sides of the same coin. Some say the who doesn't really exist, others say the what doesn't matter. It seems clear to me that both are important. Thoughts?
Ken
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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Re: What am "I"? Who am "I"?
Nobody teach them to use machetes, ok? No chimps with machetes.crochet1949 wrote:A chimp is wondering what human is going to teach it something and the dolphin is thinking his next meal of fish.
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Re: What am "I"? Who am "I"?
Audie wrote:Nobody teach them to use machetes, ok? No chimps with machetes.crochet1949 wrote:A chimp is wondering what human is going to teach it something and the dolphin is thinking his next meal of fish.
Very good suggestion, Audie
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Re: What am "I"? Who am "I"?
I just don't fully understand how we got here. Science says one thing in the bible says another. Are these just opinions? We cannot really prove God put us here. But it's a lot of things you cannot prove you just have to trust in your instincts. Maybe we as people did evolve but where did the chimpanzees come from? Who made it? Who made God? Was religion just away to keep the people from going completely insane?
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Re: What am "I"? Who am "I"?
I wonder as well, RickRickD wrote:Did Kenny just unknowingly admit that there is a "purpose" to us, just like automobiles have a purpose?Kenny wrote:I think to suggest we are just a clump of cells or atoms bouncing around a certain arrangement is akin to suggesting an automobile is just a pile of steel, glass, and rubber. Everything is more than just it's ingredients.Kurieuo wrote:No, this isn't a "guess who" game, although in a way I suppose it is.
Who is this person who is "our self" that we refer to as "I"? What am I?
Is this "I" simply a large clump of cells which is our physical body, our thoughts merely atoms bouncing or energy buzzing around in a certain arrangement? If this is what I am, how can a clump of cells apart of some mechanical process have intentions to be this way or that -- how can such be a who?
Who is this self, this I, this person, who appears to supervene upon our body?
What is this ego that is in the driver seat of our bodies, receiving stimulus input of physical experiences and exerting power over the body we're bound to in order to take control, rise above and conquer environmental and physical difficulties?
What am I? Who am I? Two different questions on different sides of the same coin. Some say the who doesn't really exist, others say the what doesn't matter. It seems clear to me that both are important. Thoughts?
Ken
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
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Re: What am "I"? Who am "I"?
MellyJae61595 wrote:I just don't fully understand how we got here. Science says one thing in the bible says another. Are these just opinions? We cannot really prove God put us here. But it's a lot of things you cannot prove you just have to trust in your instincts. Maybe we as people did evolve but where did the chimpanzees come from? Who made it? Who made God? Was religion just away to keep the people from going completely insane?
Theory of evolution isbased on data, not opinion.
Chimps are not ancestral to humans.
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Theory of Evolution is formed by a view or judgement of data. Which is another way of saying it's an opinion, FYI.Audie wrote:MellyJae61595 wrote:I just don't fully understand how we got here. Science says one thing in the bible says another. Are these just opinions? We cannot really prove God put us here. But it's a lot of things you cannot prove you just have to trust in your instincts. Maybe we as people did evolve but where did the chimpanzees come from? Who made it? Who made God? Was religion just away to keep the people from going completely insane?
Theory of evolution isbased on data, not opinion.
Chimps are not ancestral to humans.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony