Who is Mike Pence?

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edwardmurphy wrote:
abelcainsbrother wrote:Trump does not use lies and slander like his political enemies have against him,this is one thing that so many overlook.
That is a flat-out ridiculous statement. Need examples?

- Muslims in New Jersey gathered to cheer as the Twin Towers came down. That's a lie, and it slanders American Muslims.
- "They" demanded for a moment of silence for the Dallas shooter. That's a lie, and it slanders African Americans.
- Lyin' Ted's father was involved in the Kennedy assassination. That's a ridiculous lie and it slanders Rafael Cruz.
- Trump called Ben Carson a "pathological liar"? That's not slander?
- Trump claims that, unlike Clinton, he was vocally opposed to the Iraq war. If that's true then why can't anyone find any evidence that he said that before this election? No? Oh, right, he's lying.

ACB, Trump lies constantly.
B. W. wrote:I wonder if Hilary Clinton ever told a lie or acted like a bully? Made multiplied millions in foreign money exchanged for green backs?
If she did is that justification for Trump to do the same?
Kurieuo wrote:The way things appear to be in the US, tensions and the like, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump was assassinated after being elected and Pence ended up becoming the President. That'd make a vote for Trump a vote for Pence wouldn't it?
I think he's safe enough. The people most likely to snap and kill the president are Trump's most vocal supporters.
There were Muslims that celebrated 9\11. I remember it,no lie.It does not slander African Americans to call out BLM when Trump was accused of being racist for not criticizing the KKK,even the name Black Lives Matter is racist. They accuse Trump of what they are,no lie. It was not Trump who claimed Ted Cruz's father had ties to the Kennedy assissination .It was a tabloid and you do not know it is'nt true. There is a book about it,no lie from Trump. I agree Trump attacked Ben Carson unfairly but that is only one time,and Trump explained why he did it and Carson endorsed Trump so it is a non-issue. There are videos on YouTube that show Trump speaking out against the war in Iraq,no lie. You need to be more truthful. Trump is not perfect but he's been the most honest candidate that can win. You overlook this,overlook all of the lies from politicians about their record. You are just biased unfairly.
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abelcainsbrother wrote:
Nessa wrote:Regardless of who you like, I think you gotta have true objectivity.

Trumps 'there must be blood coming out from somewhere' quote is unexcusable.
I am neither for him or against him myself. Don't know enough.

But I'm waiting to hear what acb has to say concerning the comment edward brought up.

If it's a 'Yeah, but....' then I question if acb has true objectivity concerning trump.

Though it's good to be fiercly passionate about what you believe in, it has to stand up to honest evaluation. And not automatically dimissing what others have to say.

If Megyn Kelly can dish out unfairly setting Trump up in a national debate unlike any other candidate Trump has every right to call her out on it and nothing Trump said even comes close to what liberals have said about conservatives like Sara Palin,etc. She cannot set up Trump like she did trying to take him out and expect Trump not to respond. She was in the wrong and deserved what Trump said.
Acb, I usually am irritated at the way some people treat you but you just arent seeing things clearly at all. Not necessarily because you are for Trump but you cant be objective about him.

I learnt a long time ago... That two wrongs dont make a right...

If Trump does something wrong, he needs to own it. Just like the rest of us. We can't go round blaming other people for our own actions. And that is exactly what you are doing on his behalf.
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Nessa wrote:
abelcainsbrother wrote:
Nessa wrote:Regardless of who you like, I think you gotta have true objectivity.

Trumps 'there must be blood coming out from somewhere' quote is unexcusable.
I am neither for him or against him myself. Don't know enough.

But I'm waiting to hear what acb has to say concerning the comment edward brought up.

If it's a 'Yeah, but....' then I question if acb has true objectivity concerning trump.

Though it's good to be fiercly passionate about what you believe in, it has to stand up to honest evaluation. And not automatically dimissing what others have to say.

If Megyn Kelly can dish out unfairly setting Trump up in a national debate unlike any other candidate Trump has every right to call her out on it and nothing Trump said even comes close to what liberals have said about conservatives like Sara Palin,etc. She cannot set up Trump like she did trying to take him out and expect Trump not to respond. She was in the wrong and deserved what Trump said.
Acb, I usually am irritated at the way some people treat you but you just arent seeing things clearly at all. Not necessarily because you are for Trump but you cant be objective about him.

I learnt a long time ago... That two wrongs dont make a right...

If Trump does something wrong, he needs to own it. Just like the rest of us. We can't go round blaming other people for our own actions. And that is exactly what you are doing on his behalf.
The only way you can believe that is if you give Megyn Kelly a pass for what she did to Trump. You expect Trump to not respond in the way you think he should. There are a lot of things said about Trump that are not true. You think Megyn Kelly should be able to set-up Trump unfairly and he is supposed to be nice about it. She was vicious in her unfair attack. Trump had a right to call her out and fight back against her and he did.
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abelcainsbrother wrote:There were Muslims that celebrated 9\11.
But not American Muslims in the streets of New Jersey. That's a lie.
abelcainsbrother wrote:I remember it,no lie.
Remarkable. So there's video out there but nobody has ever seen it other than you and Trump...? I expect to see you on FOX News by this time tomorrow.
abelcainsbrother wrote:It does not slander African Americans to call out BLM when Trump was accused of being racist for not criticizing the KKK,even the name Black Lives Matter is racist.
BLM is not inherently racist. That's just Giuliani BS. BLM is a response to the fact that blacks are killed by police two and a half times more often than whites, despite being fewer in number. It's not a perfect movement, but comparing BLM to the KKK is ludicrous.
abelcainsbrother wrote:It was not Trump who claimed Ted Cruz's father had ties to the Kennedy assissination .It was a tabloid and you do not know it is'nt true.There is a book about it,no lie from Trump.
It was the Enquirer, which is owned by Trump's buddy, and Trump repeated the story as if it were true. Picking up a tabloid story or an Internet conspiracy theory and repeating it as if it were true is just as dishonest as the liars who said it first. It's not the kind of thing that serious people do.

I'm impressed by your hair-splitting, though. You sound like Bill Clinton denying a Lewinsky.
abelcainsbrother wrote:I agree Trump attacked Ben Carson unfairly but that is only one time,and Trump explained why he did it and Carson endorsed Trump so it is a non-issue.
Gotcha. Making an unfair attack is fair as long as political expedience compels the victim to pretend that it was okay. I guess that's politics, so why bother taking the high ground?
abelcainsbrother wrote:There are videos on YouTube that show Trump speaking out against the war in Iraq,no lie.
Before the war? Because, again, the claim is that he was against the war before it even started. Want to shut me up? Prove that the YouTube videos you're referencing actually exist. That would be really impressive, since nobody else can find it.

So where's the link?
abelcainsbrother wrote:You need to be more truthful. Trump is not perfect but he's been the most honest candidate that can win. You overlook this,overlook all of the lies from politicians about their record. You are just biased unfairly.
Whatever you say, Slick Willie.
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abelcainsbrother wrote:The only way you can believe that is if you give Megyn Kelly a pass for what she did to Trump. You expect Trump to not respond in the way you think he should. There are a lot of things said about Trump that are not true. You think Megyn Kelly should be able to set-up Trump unfairly and he is supposed to be nice about it. She was vicious in her unfair attack. Trump had a right to call her out and fight back against her and he did.
Again, wow...

The horrible thing that she did to Donald Trump was quote him saying a bunch of extremely insulting things about women and ask of that was how a president should talk. His response to being quoted was to call her a bimbo, imply that she was irrational because she was having her period, and do everything in his power to belittle and humiliate her.

And you think that that's okay.

Wow.
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edwardmurphy wrote:
abelcainsbrother wrote:There were Muslims that celebrated 9\11.
But not American Muslims in the streets of New Jersey. That's a lie.
abelcainsbrother wrote:I remember it,no lie.
Remarkable. So there's video out there but nobody has ever seen it other than you and Trump...? I expect to see you on FOX News by this time tomorrow.
abelcainsbrother wrote:It does not slander African Americans to call out BLM when Trump was accused of being racist for not criticizing the KKK,even the name Black Lives Matter is racist.
BLM is not inherently racist. That's just Giuliani BS. BLM is a response to the fact that blacks are killed by police two and a half times more often than whites, despite being fewer in number. It's not a perfect movement, but comparing BLM to the KKK is ludicrous.
abelcainsbrother wrote:It was not Trump who claimed Ted Cruz's father had ties to the Kennedy assissination .It was a tabloid and you do not know it is'nt true.There is a book about it,no lie from Trump.
It was the Enquirer, which is owned by Trump's buddy, and Trump repeated the story as if it were true. Picking up a tabloid story or an Internet conspiracy theory and repeating it as if it were true is just as dishonest as the liars who said it first. It's not the kind of thing that serious people do.

I'm impressed by your hair-splitting, though. You sound like Bill Clinton denying a Lewinsky.
abelcainsbrother wrote:I agree Trump attacked Ben Carson unfairly but that is only one time,and Trump explained why he did it and Carson endorsed Trump so it is a non-issue.
Gotcha. Making an unfair attack is fair as long as political expedience compels the victim to pretend that it was okay. I guess that's politics, so why bother taking the high ground?
abelcainsbrother wrote:There are videos on YouTube that show Trump speaking out against the war in Iraq,no lie.
Before the war? Because, again, the claim is that he was against the war before it even started. Want to shut me up? Prove that the YouTube videos you're referencing actually exist. That would be really impressive, since nobody else can find it.

So where's the link?
abelcainsbrother wrote:You need to be more truthful. Trump is not perfect but he's been the most honest candidate that can win. You overlook this,overlook all of the lies from politicians about their record. You are just biased unfairly.
Whatever you say, Slick Willie.
I gave you a chance to give a list of people Trump attacked first because you say he's a bully,you didn't. So now you bring up a bunch of junk that is true according to who you believe. You know who you believe and who I believe. But you got only one right. You are nit-picking trying to find anything that sticks in your bias. You nit-pick Trump and give Hillary a pass for big time mistakes that are much,much more important than the nit-picking things you bring up. How come Cruz's father has not sued? There is a book out that claims he was linked to it,oh but you think its a conspiracy theory,could be,but a book was written about it.You just believe who you listen to who have been wrong this whole election.
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edwardmurphy wrote:
abelcainsbrother wrote:The only way you can believe that is if you give Megyn Kelly a pass for what she did to Trump. You expect Trump to not respond in the way you think he should. There are a lot of things said about Trump that are not true. You think Megyn Kelly should be able to set-up Trump unfairly and he is supposed to be nice about it. She was vicious in her unfair attack. Trump had a right to call her out and fight back against her and he did.
Again, wow...

The horrible thing that she did to Donald Trump was quote him saying a bunch of extremely insulting things about women and ask of that was how a president should talk. His response to being quoted was to call her a bimbo, imply that she was irrational because she was having her period, and do everything in his power to belittle and humiliate her. You libs can dish it out but can't take it back.

And you think that that's okay.

Wow.

You know she was trying to take out Trump.You know she setup Trump .You wanted her unfair attack to work and yet you focus on how Trump responded to being attacked like he was? She deserved it and Trump did not use any curse words either. He didn't call her a name worse than what was said about Sara Palin by liberals. It pales in comparison big time! Sara Palin was called a sl#t by liberals.
Hebrews 12:2-3 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross,despising the shame,and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

2nd Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,lest the light of this glorious gospel of Christ,who is the image of God,should shine unto them.
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