It's okay to disagree. Infact it really is a staple of online forums, Christian or otherwise. Banter, a bit of too and fro. Some cheekiness and sarcasm here or there
I think we all need to wear our big girl and boy pants but we are at times just going to disagree. Not through a fault of the other but because by the beauty of God, we see things in such different lights and therefore shades of an argument that are seen are dependent on the person.
We need to stay respectful of that.
In this particular discussion as with most there are blurred lines.
Should a cake maker have to make a cake with a message that is offensive?? With zero ability to decline then of course logically no. Would I make a cake for a bigoted group that wanted 'gays are creeps' piped on a cake then no. I would decline.
I would find it morally unacceptable to do so.
This argument could and has been flipped.
What does a Christian do when they are asked to pipe 'gay pride' onto a cake when they find it morally unacceptable to do so?
Possibly decline
Here is where it gets very ambiguous.
When it's not about the message per say being offensive but about an ideal or people, or agenda that becomes the issue.
What I mean by that is everyone has the personal right to conviction based on religion or otherwise. It's not illegal to be a twat. To be racist, to be religious an environmentalist or to have very strong personal beliefs about whatever.
We take our beliefs into every aspect of our lives, rightly or wrongly.
I have have read fairly widely into the Christian discrimination argument of 'cake makers' and despite the couple headliner 'grabbers' the general consensus is they don't want to make cakes for homosexual weddings. As it goes against their religious beliefs.
The argument that being homosexual has nothing to do with it, and if a gay person walks into a bakery and asks for a hummingbird cake then they aren't discriminated against ergo it's the message not the person is a fallacy. Because unless they have 'gay' tattooed on their forehead then sexual orientation is unknown. Or at best may be questioned but who could deny a guy who's a little camp wanting a donut.
My point is what if I belong to a religious group that doesn't believe in racial marriage but I'm asked to make a cake that wants a reflection of the bride and groom ontop of the cake, nothing offensive but a white little groom sitting untop with a beautiful dark skinned bride alongside. I could argue black and blue I would never not serve a beautiful dark skinned woman in my store but it's the union I'm against. As by my religion.
It's not the message on the cake, it's discrimination.
What if a Muslim couple walked in and wanted a wedding cake with the words 'Allah bless us'? The message is not offensive. Its discrimination to deny a wedding cake in this example. If the message was 'death to infidels' that would be entirely different regardless of whether it was for a wedding.
We have as media does, perversed the issue for sensationalism.
Although big headlines get us talking and make the news, 99.9999 of gay couples are not trying to make some radical stand on their wedding cakes or on their wedding day. They don't want a double phallus or twin vulvas with 'gay, gay, did you get that gay!!
A simple message of Larry and Garry tastefully written ontop of a cake, has nothing to do with some outrage of the message but discrimination of the couple.